Sellers using SMR prices to establish market price for non PSA graded cards???

[bigfish]

Glyn you’re right. Ignore and move on.


QUOTE=toledo_mudhen;1779627]Not sure why SMR gets so much hate - It's a guide - a starting point if you will. PSA does a good job of keeping fairly regular updates -and it's FREE[/QUOTE]

The “hate” for me is the sellers trying to sell non Psa graded cards that are off center for SMR or record PSA reported sales. The sad part it is people are falling for this and grossly over paying for cards.

Moving on

[Leon]

Hey Toby
In the same vein as what you are saying, I dislike it when people quote me VCP for any card I have and am selling. That is because my cards have purple stickers!! Well, not really but they could have some other color of sticker. SMR on this puppy, in a 4.5 is about (there is no half grade pricing) $350. I paid almost 200% for this one....

Originally Posted by bigfish

Glyn you’re right. Ignore and move on.

QUOTE=toledo_mudhen;1779627]Not sure why SMR gets so much hate - It's a guide - a starting point if you will. PSA does a good job of keeping fairly regular updates -and it's FREE

The “hate” for me is the sellers trying to sell non Psa graded cards that are off center for SMR or record PSA reported sales. The sad part it is people are falling for this and grossly over paying for cards.

Moving on[/QUOTE]

[bigfish]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Toby
In the same vein as what you are saying, I dislike it when people quote me VCP for any card I have and am selling. That is because my cards have purple stickers!! Well, not really but they could have some other color of sticker. SMR on this puppy, in a 4.5 is about (there is no half grade pricing) $350. I paid almost 200% for this one....



The “hate” for me is the sellers trying to sell non Psa graded cards that are off center for SMR or record PSA reported sales. The sad part it is people are falling for this and grossly over paying for cards.

Moving on

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Some of these sellers have a deep bag of tricks. Good thing you didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. 😊😊😊

[Vintageclout]

What is getting lost in this whole discussion is the substantial premiums that cards with superb eye appeal can realize. It is no secret that collectors are focusing more on aesthetics than a numerical grade, especially with regard to centering. For example, iconic cards such as the Ruth Rookie, 51 Bowman/52 Topps Mantles, Green Portrait Cobb, etc. rarely surface with 45/55 to 50/50 centering, and when they do, premiums can range anywhere from 25-50%. This goes far beyond SMR listed issues, because listed auction sales don’t take into account a card’s overall aesthetics. Bottom line is a brilliant looking card will fetch far more than any “guide” or “auction” standard pricing point.

That said, I have to laugh when Collector’s/Dealers BUYING high-end eye appeal cards only point to a guide/auction pricing point, but when they are SELLING, dismiss the listed values due to the cards outstanding aesthetics! Hypocritical to say the least!

[jcmtiger]

Sell for what you like, buyers can decide.

joe

[ruth_rookie]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

What is getting lost in this whole discussion is the substantial premiums that cards with superb eye appeal can realize. It is no secret that collectors are focusing more on aesthetics than a numerical grade, especially with regard to centering.

Excellent point. In fact, the current pwcc auction has a pair of ‘65 Mantles. One is a PSA 6 and the other PSA 7. The 6 is nicely centered, the 7 not so much. Guess which one is bid higher.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

Excellent point. In fact, the current pwcc auction has a pair of ‘65 Mantles. One is a PSA 6 and the other PSA 7. The 6 is nicely centered, the 7 not so much. Guess one is bid higher.

Yep....centering rules!