Depressing

[Snapolit1]

There was certainly a lot of hi-jinks and manipulation in the old days. Short prints and the like. But today it's like the only hook to generate sales are gimmicks, lottery tickets. It's like Willie Wonka and the golden ticket.

By the way, I love the new Topps Heritage cards. Bought two boxes and had a blast opening them.

[pawpawdiv9]

I might grab 1-2 boxes at Xmas time of the shiny new stuff. Heck, I don't even know who is hot or not most times, just the fun of ripping something I guess.
That's why I join in at secret santa time, as its more of a surprise than anything.
A few yrs ago I opened one from SS, and had a retro 1957 RC Bart Starr red ink auto
It then makes me ponder IF there be a retro CJ, T206 , 48/9 Leaf or 33 Goudey cards?? or has it been done.

[glynparson]

I have been collecting since 1979 when I was 7 years old. I have been hearing this same story about how all the money is the new guys yet the older cards keep going up and the newer stuff mostly goes down with some obvious exceptions. I’ll continue to bet on older higher quality material. I’ve heard this song and dance countless times the last 39 years.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I have been collecting since 1979 when I was 7 years old. I have been hearing this same story about how all the money is the new guys yet the older cards keep going up and the newer stuff mostly goes down with some obvious exceptions. I’ll continue to bet on older higher quality material. I’ve heard this song and dance countless times the last 39 years.

What makes most collectibles rare is the fact that while they were around few if any people ever thought about collecting them for the long term. When the Gehrig rookie Exhibits came out in 1925, doubt any kid was walking around thinking "I want to preserve one of these because it will be worth a lot of money someday." Compare that with what's going on with Otani or Trout cards. People are hoarding them.

[orly57]

Same with autos Steve. Thurman Munson's auto is worth more than Ted Williams' or Mickey Mantle's. Why? Because it is far more rare. So what is the outlook on autos of a guy whose been sitting at a table signing stacks of cards for Topps or Pannini since he was 17 years old? I would bet that there are already several thousands more mike Trout autos (at age 26) out there than Thurman Munson autos (who died at age 32). Certainly on baseball cards. I will admit that I have no numbers to back up that theory, but I would bet I'm right.

[Snapolit1]

Totally agree. With the exception of an untimely death or a guy who has a real issue with signing for some odd reason, modern era autographs are valuelesss in my opinion. Might give you a nice warm feeling to look at but not an asset to sell to anyone.

Ps. Want a Pete Rose? He’s sitting at a store in Vegas all day long waiting for someone to walk in and say hello.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

modern era autographs are valuelesss in my opinion. Might give you a nice warm feeling to look at but not an asset to sell to anyone.

Mantle signed a ton; certain auto’d cards of his are worth quite a bit. The people who own the supers and gold auto XRCs of the likes of Trout and any other future longterm stars are certainly holding assets. To try and lump all auto’d modern cards together is a bit supercilious. Just enjoy whatever you collect without looking down at other collectors and their choices. And if you’re going to insist on taking such pot shots, please consider augmenting/tempering the opinion you’re so quick to type with knowledge and experience in the area you are slighting.