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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Since when is it illegal for an Auction House to have their unpaid/unsold inventory & excess/cheaper inventory that's not high quality enough to be included in a website auction sold on eBay or any other auction site?

You guys really need to find a new obsession. We are Candiman Auctions. For the 1,000,000th time we are NOT Battlefield. We are doing things the right way. If you want to read everything that has already been discussed please go back to the original thread I posted. There is no point in debating this over and over and over again.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252144

Our next auction will be open for preview 1 week from today and will run from April 14 to April 28. I promise you guys will be more pleased with what we are offering this time around. We have a lot more graded cards in this upcoming auction. Two of the biggest are a PSA 7 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle and a PSA 8 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle. Both gorgeous cards. We also have PSA graded 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle & Willie Mays RC's.

Daniel & Justin

YOU really need to answer questions if you want to have any credibility, and not keep avoiding them by asserting what great guys you are.

[CandimanAuctions]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

YOU really need to answer questions if you want to have any credibility, and not keep avoiding them by asserting what great guys you are.

Peter,

Has anyone posted that they had a bad experience with us from our March 2018 auction? The only reviews I've seen on here have all been positive yet you guys still continue to try and bully us and bring us down.

As Rick and other higher up people we have spoken to in the industry have said, there is a group of about 10 or so guys on here who you will never please no matter what you say. We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

We are about to run our second auction and we are very busy with getting that ready to go live. Time will prove you guys wrong but I'm sure no matter how many positive experiences people post on here it will never be good enough for some of you.

Daniel & Justin

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Peter,

Has anyone posted that they had a bad experience with us from our March 2018 auction? The only reviews I've seen on here have all been positive yet you guys still continue to try and bully us and bring us down.

As Rick and other higher up people we have spoken to in the industry have said, there is a group of about 10 or so guys on here who you will never please no matter what you say. We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

We are about to run our second auction and we are very busy with getting that ready to go live. Time will prove you guys wrong but I'm sure no matter how many positive experiences people post on here it will never be good enough for some of you.

Daniel & Justin

I am not sure you really want to go there. There are numerous sellers about whom everyone here has nothing but good things to say. Don't blame us, blame you.

Tell me this, has anyone returned a card to you? Just wondering. And answer the question about why you are listing items as located in Little Rock, Arkansas please. And while we are at it, are you affiliated with the ebay ID lexus1584?

[CandimanAuctions]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am not sure you really want to go there. There are numerous sellers about whom everyone here has nothing but good things to say. Don't blame us, blame you.

Tell me this, has anyone returned a card to you? Just wondering. And answer the question about why you are listing items as located in Little Rock, Arkansas please.

Peter,

I'm just repeating what I've been told. Nothing more. Blame me for what? Being guilty by association? Every single person on this forum can be found guilty by association with someone if you are using that logic. Are we all supposed to be punished for the sins of people we have an association with?

1 card returned by Ed and I'm sure he will let you guys know that he had a positive experience with us and plans to bid in our future auctions. That's it. The location is Little Rock, AR because we have a friend that lives there that is selling our unsold/unpaid lots and excess inventory or lower grade inventory that's not high quality enough to put on the website. We don't have time to sell on eBay and run an Auction House at the same time. He's getting 10% of the sales price of every item that sells. It's a win for both of us. Is there a problem with us doing that too?

This will be the last time I can post anything until Monday. I'm heading out of town for Easter with my wife and son.

Daniel

[Peter_Spaeth]

Thank you for directly answering 2 of the 3 questions anyhow. It's interesting that you not only did not answer the third question, you chopped it off from the quote.

So the 52 Topps Jackie was returned. For me, having to return a 3K card as misrepresented would not be a "positive experience" as you describe it, but that's just me.

"Blame you" was not meant as guilt by association, but rather for being less than straightforward in responding to questions in the other thread. Many people here, not just me, had that reaction as you saw for yourself.

[botn]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

And the ONLY reason you have to go back and forth is because you avoid answering all the questions and have not really been as transparent or truthful as you claim.

Please do make sure to remind us again how great your April auction is going to be because so far that has been all that has stuck with me from what you have posted this time around.

And Daniel, you can be 100% honest. No matter what the truth is as long as you have a card a guy wants for his collection or a card he thinks he can a make a buck on, you will not lose him as a bidder.

[jfkheat]

Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557

[Peter_Spaeth]

Good find.

[jfkheat]

Wrong thread, sorry.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The ebay listings include a couple of OPC Gretzky RCs, not sure how those would not be good enough for the auction? Must be unpaid too?

PS I see them now listed in the Candiman auction so that's now three cards we have quickly identified as being allegedly "unpaid" for.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557

Well...ain't that some XXXXing bullshit. I was the direct underbidder on the Hank Aaron. Nice to know I was bidding against the auction house on that card. Candiman, please take me off your mailing list. I want no part of your scams.

[CandimanAuctions]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well...ain't that some XXXXing bullshit. I was the direct underbidder on the Hank Aaron. Nice to know I was bidding against the auction house on that card. Candiman, please take me off your mailing list. I want no part of your scams.

Robert,

I wish you would've won the Aaron card. I know for sure you would've paid for it. Unfortunately we did have several bidders not pay (some as a result of reading this forum). This entire thread is based on nothing more than speculation, conspiracy theories, and assumptions from people who did not participate in our auction. If you didn't participate in our March 2018 auction then you have never done business with us and have no right to cast any judgement. There was no shill bidding in the auction (Edward Jensen attested to this fact in the original thread I posted about Candiman Auctions). Of course everyone completely ignored his review because it was a positive one. Many people got great deals on the lots they won and I am happy they did. We want to form long-term business relationships because we are going to be around for a very long time. I hope you will reconsider bidding in our future auctions.

Thanks,

Daniel

[CandimanAuctions]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557

Yes this was an unpaid item. Along with several others. As others on this forum can attest to, for our initial auction, registering for our website required no hobby reference requirements or credit card information. We did this to get as many people registered as possible because we were starting from scratch. Obviously this strategy resulted in several non-paying bidders. Moving forward we will start to add those requirements when registering for our auctions in order to prevent non-paying bidders.

Also, after our March 2018 auction ended, we had a handful of bidders who won items contact us informing us that they would not be paying because they didn't read this forum prior to bidding in our auction. So a big congratulations to you guys! You were able to cost us business because of this forum and I'm sure many of you will be thrilled by that.

Most of the people who have posted on the threads here did not bid in our auction and therefore have never done business with us before. This hasn't prevented them from casting judgement on us. How you can judge a company you have never done business with I'll never know.

Daniel

[MikeKam]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557

One strange thing here (and with many of the other auctions on eBay) is how Candiman Auctions state they send out invoices within 3 days of the auction end and then require payment within two weeks. If that were the case, wouldn't the buyer have ~17 days to make payment, that being March 28th?

Seeing as how the eBay auction lasted 5 days, starting from the 21st and ending on the 26th, the buyer must have surely been surprised to not have been given the two week payment period

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MikeKam

One strange thing here (and with many of the other auctions on eBay) is how Candiman Auctions state they send out invoices within 3 days of the auction end and then require payment within two weeks. If that were the case, wouldn't the buyer have ~17 days to make payment, that being March 28th?

Seeing as how the eBay auction lasted 5 days, starting from the 21st and ending on the 26th, the buyer must have surely been surprised to not have been given the two week payment period

Don't let facts get in the way of a good story, please. I am sure the answer is that all these people affirmatively and immediately reneged on their winning bids

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Peter,

Has anyone posted that they had a bad experience with us from our March 2018 auction? The only reviews I've seen on here have all been positive yet you guys still continue to try and bully us and bring us down.

As Rick and other higher up people we have spoken to in the industry have said, there is a group of about 10 or so guys on here who you will never please no matter what you say. We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

We are about to run our second auction and we are very busy with getting that ready to go live. Time will prove you guys wrong but I'm sure no matter how many positive experiences people post on here it will never be good enough for some of you.

Daniel & Justin

Daniel you get "bullied" because you deflect questions, don't give straight answers, ignore certain questions, pop up on Ebay with an ID from a different state selling some of the same cards you "sold" in your Candiman Auction and bid up $7k worth of cards on ebay and bounce an e-check.

Did I miss anything? I wouldn't call it bullying, I'd call it people trying to get to the truth vs. someone who is doing everything possible to only tell the portion of the "truth" they want out.

Cry unfair all you want, but you are creating this mess.

[Batpig]

Here's the thing, when you do things honestly, you don't need to evade questions.

[CandimanAuctions]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

Daniel you get "bullied" because you deflect questions, don't give straight answers, ignore certain questions, pop up on Ebay with an ID from a different state selling some of the same cards you "sold" in your Candiman Auction and bid up $7k worth of cards on ebay and bounce an e-check.

Did I miss anything? I wouldn't call it bullying, I'd call it people trying to get to the truth vs. someone who is doing everything possible to only tell the portion of the "truth" they want out.

Cry unfair all you want, but you are creating this mess.

Chris,

You can call it whatever you want, but for the most part, bullying is the correct term for what has transpired on this forum. That's fine. We have thick skin and can handle attacks from bullies. We have received some great supportive pm messages, emails, and phone calls. So not all bad.

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

Daniel

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Chris,

You can call it whatever you want, but for the most part, bullying is the correct term for what has transpired on this forum. That's fine. We have thick skin and can handle attacks from bullies. We have received some great supportive pm messages, emails, and phone calls. So not all bad.

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

Daniel

Hopefully that company will post its side of the story, and we can judge for ourselves.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Chris,

You can call it whatever you want, but for the most part, bullying is the correct term for what has transpired on this forum. That's fine. We have thick skin and can handle attacks from bullies. We have received some great supportive pm messages, emails, and phone calls. So not all bad.

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

Daniel

The "victim" narrative is really misplaced, and unpersuasive. I don't think you have convinced anyone that you are a victim here. You might reflect on why this thread, and the other one, have left so many of us with doubts.

[bobbyw8469]

I find it really hard to believe that you are as many "non paying bidders" as you claim to have had. I'm sorry, but I can't help but feel I was bidding against a "house bidder". You can't tell me you had sooooo many unsold lots in your last auction that you had to put so many on Ebay two weeks later. If it looks like a duck, and acts like a duck........guess what.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Chris,

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

Daniel

I'm curious about this. I'm unsure of how the timing worked out. How long does it take an e-check to clear the bank of the person who sent it? How did you find out the owners of the company are sharing personal information? Is it posted on their site such that you should have seen it before you made the deal? How long after you sent the e-check did it take you to find out about the dissemination of your personal information? Is it ethical to back out of a deal after the fact like you did?

But the most important question is, if you won't do business with a company that hands out your personal information (and apparently feel strongly enough to cause you to claim you reneged on the deal), would you do business with a company that willingly accepts, nay, asks for personal information about other people without their knowledge?

From the thread Candiman Auctions Explained (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252144), post #18:

Originally Posted by CandimanAuctions

Hi Patrick,

Since this is our first auction we asked our consignors if they would provide us an email list of people they have dealt with in the past that they thought might be interested in the auction. Your email address must have been on the list that either they gave us or one of our other consignors. It is not easy starting an auction site and we have tried to utilize every option to reach as many people that would possibly be interested in bidding in the auction. Our company operates nothing like they did. We are here to do things the right way. The only way to do that is to be open and honest like Leon advised me to do with this thread. I hope I am able to answer everyone's questions and ease their concerns. We love this hobby and really want to be a part of it.

Thanks,

Daniel

Michael