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Since when is it illegal for an Auction House to have their unpaid/unsold inventory & excess/cheaper inventory that's not high quality enough to be included in a website auction sold on eBay or any other auction site?

You guys really need to find a new obsession. We are Candiman Auctions. For the 1,000,000th time we are NOT Battlefield. We are doing things the right way. If you want to read everything that has already been discussed please go back to the original thread I posted. There is no point in debating this over and over and over again.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252144

Our next auction will be open for preview 1 week from today and will run from April 14 to April 28. I promise you guys will be more pleased with what we are offering this time around. We have a lot more graded cards in this upcoming auction. Two of the biggest are a PSA 7 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle and a PSA 8 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle. Both gorgeous cards. We also have PSA graded 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle & Willie Mays RC's.

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Old 03-31-2018, 08:56 AM
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Since when is it illegal for an Auction House to have their unpaid/unsold inventory & excess/cheaper inventory that's not high quality enough to be included in a website auction sold on eBay or any other auction site?

You guys really need to find a new obsession. We are Candiman Auctions. For the 1,000,000th time we are NOT Battlefield. We are doing things the right way. If you want to read everything that has already been discussed please go back to the original thread I posted. There is no point in debating this over and over and over again.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252144

Our next auction will be open for preview 1 week from today and will run from April 14 to April 28. I promise you guys will be more pleased with what we are offering this time around. We have a lot more graded cards in this upcoming auction. Two of the biggest are a PSA 7 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle and a PSA 8 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle. Both gorgeous cards. We also have PSA graded 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle & Willie Mays RC's.

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YOU really need to answer questions if you want to have any credibility, and not keep avoiding them by asserting what great guys you are.
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YOU really need to answer questions if you want to have any credibility, and not keep avoiding them by asserting what great guys you are.
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Has anyone posted that they had a bad experience with us from our March 2018 auction? The only reviews I've seen on here have all been positive yet you guys still continue to try and bully us and bring us down.

As Rick and other higher up people we have spoken to in the industry have said, there is a group of about 10 or so guys on here who you will never please no matter what you say. We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

We are about to run our second auction and we are very busy with getting that ready to go live. Time will prove you guys wrong but I'm sure no matter how many positive experiences people post on here it will never be good enough for some of you.

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Has anyone posted that they had a bad experience with us from our March 2018 auction? The only reviews I've seen on here have all been positive yet you guys still continue to try and bully us and bring us down.

As Rick and other higher up people we have spoken to in the industry have said, there is a group of about 10 or so guys on here who you will never please no matter what you say. We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

We are about to run our second auction and we are very busy with getting that ready to go live. Time will prove you guys wrong but I'm sure no matter how many positive experiences people post on here it will never be good enough for some of you.

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I am not sure you really want to go there. There are numerous sellers about whom everyone here has nothing but good things to say. Don't blame us, blame you.

Tell me this, has anyone returned a card to you? Just wondering. And answer the question about why you are listing items as located in Little Rock, Arkansas please. And while we are at it, are you affiliated with the ebay ID lexus1584?
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I am not sure you really want to go there. There are numerous sellers about whom everyone here has nothing but good things to say. Don't blame us, blame you.

Tell me this, has anyone returned a card to you? Just wondering. And answer the question about why you are listing items as located in Little Rock, Arkansas please.
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I'm just repeating what I've been told. Nothing more. Blame me for what? Being guilty by association? Every single person on this forum can be found guilty by association with someone if you are using that logic. Are we all supposed to be punished for the sins of people we have an association with?

1 card returned by Ed and I'm sure he will let you guys know that he had a positive experience with us and plans to bid in our future auctions. That's it. The location is Little Rock, AR because we have a friend that lives there that is selling our unsold/unpaid lots and excess inventory or lower grade inventory that's not high quality enough to put on the website. We don't have time to sell on eBay and run an Auction House at the same time. He's getting 10% of the sales price of every item that sells. It's a win for both of us. Is there a problem with us doing that too?

This will be the last time I can post anything until Monday. I'm heading out of town for Easter with my wife and son.

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Thank you for directly answering 2 of the 3 questions anyhow. It's interesting that you not only did not answer the third question, you chopped it off from the quote.

So the 52 Topps Jackie was returned. For me, having to return a 3K card as misrepresented would not be a "positive experience" as you describe it, but that's just me.

"Blame you" was not meant as guilt by association, but rather for being less than straightforward in responding to questions in the other thread. Many people here, not just me, had that reaction as you saw for yourself.
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We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.
And the ONLY reason you have to go back and forth is because you avoid answering all the questions and have not really been as transparent or truthful as you claim.

Please do make sure to remind us again how great your April auction is going to be because so far that has been all that has stuck with me from what you have posted this time around.

And Daniel, you can be 100% honest. No matter what the truth is as long as you have a card a guy wants for his collection or a card he thinks he can a make a buck on, you will not lose him as a bidder.
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Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
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Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557
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Wrong thread, sorry.

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Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557
Well...ain't that some XXXXing bullshit. I was the direct underbidder on the Hank Aaron. Nice to know I was bidding against the auction house on that card. Candiman, please take me off your mailing list. I want no part of your scams.

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Well...ain't that some XXXXing bullshit. I was the direct underbidder on the Hank Aaron. Nice to know I was bidding against the auction house on that card. Candiman, please take me off your mailing list. I want no part of your scams.
Robert,

I wish you would've won the Aaron card. I know for sure you would've paid for it. Unfortunately we did have several bidders not pay (some as a result of reading this forum). This entire thread is based on nothing more than speculation, conspiracy theories, and assumptions from people who did not participate in our auction. If you didn't participate in our March 2018 auction then you have never done business with us and have no right to cast any judgement. There was no shill bidding in the auction (Edward Jensen attested to this fact in the original thread I posted about Candiman Auctions). Of course everyone completely ignored his review because it was a positive one. Many people got great deals on the lots they won and I am happy they did. We want to form long-term business relationships because we are going to be around for a very long time. I hope you will reconsider bidding in our future auctions.

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Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557
Yes this was an unpaid item. Along with several others. As others on this forum can attest to, for our initial auction, registering for our website required no hobby reference requirements or credit card information. We did this to get as many people registered as possible because we were starting from scratch. Obviously this strategy resulted in several non-paying bidders. Moving forward we will start to add those requirements when registering for our auctions in order to prevent non-paying bidders.

Also, after our March 2018 auction ended, we had a handful of bidders who won items contact us informing us that they would not be paying because they didn't read this forum prior to bidding in our auction. So a big congratulations to you guys! You were able to cost us business because of this forum and I'm sure many of you will be thrilled by that.

Most of the people who have posted on the threads here did not bid in our auction and therefore have never done business with us before. This hasn't prevented them from casting judgement on us. How you can judge a company you have never done business with I'll never know.

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Was this one of the "unpaid" items?
James

Sold in your auction for $800

http://candimanauctions.com/LotDetai...inventoryid=39


Resold on eBay for $1142

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hank-Aaron-...p2047675.l2557
One strange thing here (and with many of the other auctions on eBay) is how Candiman Auctions state they send out invoices within 3 days of the auction end and then require payment within two weeks. If that were the case, wouldn't the buyer have ~17 days to make payment, that being March 28th?

Seeing as how the eBay auction lasted 5 days, starting from the 21st and ending on the 26th, the buyer must have surely been surprised to not have been given the two week payment period
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One strange thing here (and with many of the other auctions on eBay) is how Candiman Auctions state they send out invoices within 3 days of the auction end and then require payment within two weeks. If that were the case, wouldn't the buyer have ~17 days to make payment, that being March 28th?

Seeing as how the eBay auction lasted 5 days, starting from the 21st and ending on the 26th, the buyer must have surely been surprised to not have been given the two week payment period
Don't let facts get in the way of a good story, please. I am sure the answer is that all these people affirmatively and immediately reneged on their winning bids
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Peter,

Has anyone posted that they had a bad experience with us from our March 2018 auction? The only reviews I've seen on here have all been positive yet you guys still continue to try and bully us and bring us down.

As Rick and other higher up people we have spoken to in the industry have said, there is a group of about 10 or so guys on here who you will never please no matter what you say. We don't have time to go back and forth with you guys everyday. You might have the time but we don't.

We are about to run our second auction and we are very busy with getting that ready to go live. Time will prove you guys wrong but I'm sure no matter how many positive experiences people post on here it will never be good enough for some of you.

Daniel & Justin
Daniel you get "bullied" because you deflect questions, don't give straight answers, ignore certain questions, pop up on Ebay with an ID from a different state selling some of the same cards you "sold" in your Candiman Auction and bid up $7k worth of cards on ebay and bounce an e-check.

Did I miss anything? I wouldn't call it bullying, I'd call it people trying to get to the truth vs. someone who is doing everything possible to only tell the portion of the "truth" they want out.

Cry unfair all you want, but you are creating this mess.
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Daniel you get "bullied" because you deflect questions, don't give straight answers, ignore certain questions, pop up on Ebay with an ID from a different state selling some of the same cards you "sold" in your Candiman Auction and bid up $7k worth of cards on ebay and bounce an e-check.

Did I miss anything? I wouldn't call it bullying, I'd call it people trying to get to the truth vs. someone who is doing everything possible to only tell the portion of the "truth" they want out.

Cry unfair all you want, but you are creating this mess.
Chris,

You can call it whatever you want, but for the most part, bullying is the correct term for what has transpired on this forum. That's fine. We have thick skin and can handle attacks from bullies. We have received some great supportive pm messages, emails, and phone calls. So not all bad.

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

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Chris,

You can call it whatever you want, but for the most part, bullying is the correct term for what has transpired on this forum. That's fine. We have thick skin and can handle attacks from bullies. We have received some great supportive pm messages, emails, and phone calls. So not all bad.

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

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Hopefully that company will post its side of the story, and we can judge for ourselves.
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You can call it whatever you want, but for the most part, bullying is the correct term for what has transpired on this forum. That's fine. We have thick skin and can handle attacks from bullies. We have received some great supportive pm messages, emails, and phone calls. So not all bad.

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

Daniel
The "victim" narrative is really misplaced, and unpersuasive. I don't think you have convinced anyone that you are a victim here. You might reflect on why this thread, and the other one, have left so many of us with doubts.
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I find it really hard to believe that you are as many "non paying bidders" as you claim to have had. I'm sorry, but I can't help but feel I was bidding against a "house bidder". You can't tell me you had sooooo many unsold lots in your last auction that you had to put so many on Ebay two weeks later. If it looks like a duck, and acts like a duck........guess what.
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Chris,

I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?

Daniel
I'm curious about this. I'm unsure of how the timing worked out. How long does it take an e-check to clear the bank of the person who sent it? How did you find out the owners of the company are sharing personal information? Is it posted on their site such that you should have seen it before you made the deal? How long after you sent the e-check did it take you to find out about the dissemination of your personal information? Is it ethical to back out of a deal after the fact like you did?

But the most important question is, if you won't do business with a company that hands out your personal information (and apparently feel strongly enough to cause you to claim you reneged on the deal), would you do business with a company that willingly accepts, nay, asks for personal information about other people without their knowledge?

From the thread Candiman Auctions Explained (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252144), post #18:

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Since this is our first auction we asked our consignors if they would provide us an email list of people they have dealt with in the past that they thought might be interested in the auction. Your email address must have been on the list that either they gave us or one of our other consignors. It is not easy starting an auction site and we have tried to utilize every option to reach as many people that would possibly be interested in bidding in the auction. Our company operates nothing like they did. We are here to do things the right way. The only way to do that is to be open and honest like Leon advised me to do with this thread. I hope I am able to answer everyone's questions and ease their concerns. We love this hobby and really want to be a part of it.

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Since when is it illegal for an Auction House to have their unpaid/unsold inventory & excess/cheaper inventory that's not high quality enough to be included in a website auction sold on eBay or any other auction site?

You guys really need to find a new obsession. We are Candiman Auctions. For the 1,000,000th time we are NOT Battlefield. We are doing things the right way. If you want to read everything that has already been discussed please go back to the original thread I posted. There is no point in debating this over and over and over again.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252144

Our next auction will be open for preview 1 week from today and will run from April 14 to April 28. I promise you guys will be more pleased with what we are offering this time around. We have a lot more graded cards in this upcoming auction. Two of the biggest are a PSA 7 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle and a PSA 8 1956 Topps Mickey Mantle. Both gorgeous cards. We also have PSA graded 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle & Willie Mays RC's.

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Daniel your replies are a joke at best. I will give you the best info you will ever get when you are a scum bag seller. SHUT THE F UP!!! Way bigger and more important scum bag sellers have come on here and lied their a$$ off and we kept harassing them till they got smart enough to quit posting lies or better yet just quit posting.

Like has been posted in this thread already. Most people don't care who they buy from as long as they get the card(s) they want. So quit posting and reap the rewards from all the new customers you have from this forum. Now if you are too stupid to take this advise you will keep getting called out on your lies.
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Summing up, I note several characteristics of Daniel's posts to date.
1. Selectively answering questions.
2. Playing the victim by claiming he is being bullied when he isn't. A very common tactic.
3. Raising straw men, such as "it isn't illegal to do X." Nobody accused him of illegality.
4. Spinning -- e.g., Ed's having to return a 3K card was somehow a "positive experience."
5. Selectively claiming he doesn't have time to debate, as though that explained/justified his refusal to answer certain questions.
6. Repeating his mantra ad nauseum. "We are not Battlefield."
7. Feigning outrage, as in his response to the claim that he bounced a substantial e-check.

There are probably others.
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7. Feigning outrage, (while failing to deny the claim) as in his response to the claim that he bounced a substantial e-check.

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daniel your replies are a joke at best. I will give you the best info you will ever get when you are a scum bag seller. Shut the f up!!! Way bigger and more important scum bag sellers have come on here and lied their a$$ off and we kept harassing them till they got smart enough to quit posting lies or better yet just quit posting.

Like has been posted in this thread already. Most people don't care who they buy from as long as they get the card(s) they want. So quit posting and reap the rewards from all the new customers you have from this forum. Now if you are too stupid to take this advise you will keep getting called out on your lies.:d
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Won't visit the candiman site just for the fact that my virus protection states it is very risky.

Oh, that and the fact that the "new" auction house is selling a known scammers old inventory, sends their unsold inventory over 300 miles away to be resold, seems to have inventory that was bid on and won but is still reselling, avoids the simple but largely important questions, takes paypal sometimes, and just seems shady overall.

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Daniel your replies are a joke at best. I will give you the best info you will ever get when you are a scum bag seller. SHUT THE F UP!!! Way bigger and more important scum bag sellers have come on here and lied their a$$ off and we kept harassing them till they got smart enough to quit posting lies or better yet just quit posting.

Like has been posted in this thread already. Most people don't care who they buy from as long as they get the card(s) they want. So quit posting and reap the rewards from all the new customers you have from this forum. Now if you are too stupid to take this advise you will keep getting called out on your lies.
"Scum bag seller?" Really? What possible justification do you have for making that claim? You bought 2 low grade lots of cards in our March 2018 auction. You paid with a personal check for which we held for the 7-10 business days as stated in the Auction Rules that you accepted when you registered to bid. Your lots have now been shipped and delivered.

The only right you have is to report on what you purchased from us. People who have never bought a thing from us (pretty much everyone who is commenting in these threads) have zero right to cast any judgement. You can't post a review of a company you've never bought anything from. We were taught very early in life that when you "assume" it makes an "ass" out of "u" and "me". Most of the things that have been posted about us are speculation, conspiracy theories, and nothing but assumptions.

You are getting your wish though. This is the last day we will be posting on the forum. At least for a very long time. We have to focus on running our business and only time and us running several more auctions is going to prove that we are doing things the right way.

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"We were taught very early in life that when you "assume" it makes an "ass" out of "u" and "me"

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Well....I sure hope you’re selective about applying what you were taught early in life from the parents who you’ve disavowed.
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Well....I sure hope you’re selective about applying what you were taught early in life from the parents who you’ve disavowed.
Not sure where anybody elses' parents received their education (except my own...I think), but the "assume" quote-gag originated from a very well known "The Odd Couple" episode from the Seventies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvTwv5o1Qs

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...You can't post a review of a company you've never bought anything from...
Why not? People can have such a negative experience, whereas it pertains to a particular company, they decide NOT to buy anything.

Are you confusing “review” with eBay feedback?
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Why not? People can have such a negative experience, whereas it pertains to a particular company, they decide NOT to buy anything.

Are you confusing “review” with eBay feedback?
Most of us aren't reviewing the company, we are reacting to the thread THEY started in an effort to convince us they were not Battlefield, were doing everything right, were great guys, etc. It's just one more misdirection/red herring which seems to be their M.O.
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Out of curiosity, what is standard for non paid lots? Do AH's contact the underbidder? Do they rerun the item in their next auction?
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They (poor Justin, is he even a party to this clown show?) claim that the seller in arkansas is a friend who is selling for them but this friend also doesn’t do back scans and also doesn’t use the enlarge function on his eBay accounts and was kind enough to use the Candiman name as well. If they had so many non paying bidders then they should name them. What reason would they have to protect these NPBs? They claim to have nothing to do with their parents, but they use the same listing software, same listing style and same avoidance of using TPGs.

Is there anyone at this point who doesn’t believe that Daniel was behind the Battlefield eBay ID and only started this Candiman auctions because he’s been booted from eBay? Chime in, I want to hear from all of these people sending Daniel encouraging emails, PMs and phone calls.
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Most of us aren't reviewing the company, we are reacting to the thread THEY started in an effort to convince us they were not Battlefield, were doing everything right, were great guys, etc. It's just one more misdirection/red herring which seems to be their M.O.
To clarify... Didn't they start this thread only after someone here outed them as the famous Battles/Battlefield? So if that didn't happen, it would have never been brought up, correct?
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I just know I'll never bid in one of their auctions ever again. They do every trick under the book in order to get money.
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