Yankees Ticket Dating Guide BOTCHED

[Shoeless Moe]

I don't think there is another guide out there. Wish the guys who made this one would correct it, but the problem is PSA has slabbed so many incorrectly I don't think they are admitting to it being botched anytime soon.

Example:

https://goldinauctions.com/1923_New_...-LOT23876.aspx

Says 1923 on it........problem is its a 1924

This example was initially wrong and they have since corrected that (on years 1923 to 1928), but that was corrected before their guide came out and once it came out they have yet to fix any inconsistencies on years after that so hard to trust the 1930's.

Again so many have been graded its just a mess, it would be nice if they or someone more knowledgeable then me came out with a corrected guide.

[batsballsbases]

Thanks Paul.. That is why I have just held on to these ... Thanks for the info...

[megalimey]

Keyman Guide is accepted as being accurate By PSA and now SGC

the only two recognized ticket authentication companies
SMR Guide even The Baseball Hall of Fame
SGC who have over a hundred errors on tickets. have seen the light and now except it as the norm and there are now many SGC tickets slabbed based on Keyman , has PSA been 100% accurate 100% of the time, obviously I cannot say that
PSA and Now SGC provide Consistency and acknowledged accuracy is what people pay for including all the big auction houses
but I do appreciate your time finding this anomaly. which you say is wrong based on some one hand writing teams ?? , and will all know how accurate that is'
and before you list the other errors you found
I could list 1000's of PSA and SGC 100% correct labels .
the Keyman guide was set up to provide the only posted internet and bonafide verifiable information on undated Yankees tickets , which is become invaluable to the Yankee ticket collector and used extensively . I have received 100's of compliments commending the painstaking Research required to put his date together for any one to see . I am proud of what I have done for the Ticket hobby
and overall its been a wonderful and gratifying experience , and worth the time and effort , and if you guys still want to try and blow it up over a some errors you found [B] then Let the bashing begin , I know its coming.

[btcarfagno]

I do not see it as bashing. Yet anyway.

And certainly no one should bash you for the great amount of work that went into the guide and your generosity in sharing that wealth of knowledge with the larger collecting community. You should be thanked for that, and very much so.

If, however, new information comes to light that shows errors or updates are needed, then this is equally important. A guide can no longer be considered a true guide if it shown to contain errors or has become outdated due to additional research.

This is especially important if many tickets have been incorrectly slabbed by the alphabet soups based on outdated information which has now shown to be inaccurate. It is that much more important to let the hobby know so that they can be informed when purchasing a slabbed ticket as to whether or not the slabbing company used outdated information and their flip may be incorrect. Unfortunately that genie left the bottle a long time ago and the slabs are pretty much forever. So if they are incorrect people need to know what to look for in an inaccurate flip.

I don't know much about ticket collecting, so all of my above statements are just based on collecting in general. If I am off base in what I have read in this thread then please forgive me.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I do not see it as bashing. Yet anyway.

And certainly no one should bash you for the great amount of work that went into the guide and your generosity in sharing that wealth of knowledge with the larger collecting community. You should be thanked for that, and very much so.

If, however, new information comes to light that shows errors or updates are needed, then this is equally important. A guide can no longer be considered a true guide if it shown to contain errors or has become outdated due to additional research.

This is especially important if many tickets have been incorrectly slabbed by the alphabet soups based on outdated information which has now shown to be inaccurate. It is that much more important to let the hobby know so that they can be informed when purchasing a slabbed ticket as to whether or not the slabbing company used outdated information and their flip may be incorrect. Unfortunately that genie left the bottle a long time ago and the slabs are pretty much forever. So if they are incorrect people need to know what to look for in an inaccurate flip.

I don't know much about ticket collecting, so all of my above statements are just based on collecting in general. If I am off base in what I have read in this thread then please forgive me.

WEB SITE HAS BEEN REVISED with some minor corrections over the years
and FYI PSA will correct any submission wrongly labeled at no charge
and I will provide the details to any one that has one to be fixed, also at no charge
my intentions were to prevent the barrage of mis identified tickets for mile stone games hitting the market , at this time the Keyman website is 100% accurate with the Year Dating codes from 1923-1968 , and until proven with 100% verifiable proof that its wrong , .

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by megalimey

WEB SITE HAS BEEN REVISED with some minor corrections over the years
and FYI PSA will correct any submission wrongly labeled at no charge
and I will provide the details to any one that has one to be fixed, also at no charge
my intentions were to prevent the barrage of mis identified tickets for mile stone games hitting the market , at this time the Keyman website is 100% accurate with the Year Dating codes from 1923-1968 , and until proven with 100% verifiable proof that its wrong , .

ok so the link in my original post:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMERICAN-LE...19.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMERICAN-LE...19.m1438.l2649

what year is that ticket from?

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

ok so the link in my original post:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMERICAN-LE...19.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMERICAN-LE...19.m1438.l2649

what year is that ticket from?

it has a Letter D which corresponds with 1936 date code
hundreds of tickets have wrong hand written dates teams or events
that should never be taken on face value

if that were the case I can sell you some original Babe Ruth signatures
that some ones grand pappy said he got personally and even wrote the date he got them , but NO COA go figure

[Shoeless Moe]

Tom, you are 100% dead on. There is no bashing here or intended. It's all about getting it right. The bashing however will come if its not updated and corrected.


This one says 1927

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...410044-44099.s

but its a 1924, correct David? or incorrect?

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Tom, you are 100% dead on. There is no bashing here or intended. It's all about getting it right. The bashing however will come if its not updated and corrected.


This one says 1927

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...410044-44099.s

but its a 1924, correct David? or incorrect?

actually ticket shown is 100% 1923 was slabbed WRONGLY in 2010 pre keyman dating guide 2014

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by megalimey

actually ticket shown is 100% 1923 was slabbed WRONGLY in 2010 pre keyman dating guide 2014

I'm sorry yes I meant to say 1923, but my point is its slabbed as a 1927, which is incorrect.And there are several out there like this slabbed incorrect.

what about the other one, my original post, what year is that one?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by megalimey

actually ticket shown is 100% 1923 was slabbed WRONGLY in 2010 pre keyman dating guide 2014

Only 1923 tickets have a Canada Dry advert on the back.