Money in the Hobby

[Snapolit1]

I'm still waiting for the NYC real estate market to collapse like everyone's been telling me is inevitable (since 1970). Totally not sustainable. Yeah, sure.

[packs]

No offense but real estate, stamps, coins, and car markets have nothing to do with baseball cards. I am going out on a limb, but I'll venture to say that most people collect baseball cards because they collected them as children. Being born in the 80s and using that as some justification for a future vintage market doesn't hold water. Why? Because in the 90s baseball cards exploded. You could buy a pack of cards anywhere. They were always a part of your life.

I could not tell you the last time I saw a pack of baseball cards sitting out on a counter in my local grocery store. That connection just doesn't exist for anyone being born post-2000, which is who you'll have to rely on to buy your collection down the road.

[Rookiemonster]

Everything has its life ups and downs.comic were dead for years then came back like never before. What ever caused cards to go up a couple years back may happen again soon.I see and hear about young collectors all the time.

When I was a kid we had videos games and other distractions. I stopped collecting off and on for years. I’m not a baby boomer and mother are any of my friends that still buy cards. Maybe some lesser know player will fade with time like a max Carey , Paul warner, etc old hofers won’t always appeal to the future generations. As the games changes players won’t be viewed the same.

As in a football I like Benny Friedman. He had the rookie touchdown record season touchdown record, more yards then any other passer and he could run. Etc man a head of his time by decades !!! How many people know who this man is today???

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Everything has its life ups and downs.comic were dead for years then came back like never before. What ever caused cards to go up a couple years back may happen again soon.I see and hear about young collectors all the time.

When I was a kid we had videos games and other distractions. I stopped collecting off and on for years. I’m not a baby boomer and mother are any of my friends that still buy cards. Maybe some lesser know player will fade with time like a max Carey , Paul warner, etc old hofers won’t always appeal to the future generations. As the games changes players won’t be viewed the same.

As in a football I like Benny Friedman. He had the rookie touchdown record season touchdown record, more yards then any other passer and he could run. Etc man a head of his time by decades !!! How many people know who this man is today???

You are right about Paul Warner. The same applies to the rest of the Warner brothers, too.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Mark

You are right about Paul Warner. The same applies to the rest of the Warner brothers, too.

And the Warner sister, Dot.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Mark

You are right about Paul Warner. The same applies to the rest of the Warner brothers, too.

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by Mark

You are right about Paul Warner. The same applies to the rest of the Warner brothers, too.

Haha see I already forgot who Paul waner was.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by packs

... I'll venture to say that most people collect baseball cards because they collected them as children...

People who collect Ming vases didn't collect them as a kid. People who collect rare pieces of art didn't collect that as a kid. Not so sure there is a correlation any more.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

People who collect Ming vases didn't collect them as a kid. People who collect rare pieces of art didn't collect that as a kid. Not so sure there is a correlation any more.

I don't think you're seeing the connection the right way. I collect all types of baseball memorabilia. I didn't collect RPPCs as a kid, but I do now because of my appreciation that grew out of collecting baseball cards. Saying something like "they didn't collect Ming vases as a child" totally ignores any previous appreciation of a related interest, like art, history, or heritage.

[joshuanip]

I have to agree with packs here, I think we all collected "twice" in our lives...

That said, I get the other side of the coin, (perceived) value begets value...

[orly57]

I feel like pigeonholing people under the rubric of "gen x" or "millennial" does not take into account individual tastes. The year I was born is not what defines me as an individual or a collector; my collecting gene, my love of history, and my love of baseball is what makes me collect baseball cards. We, the members of this great forum, are collectors by nature, not by choice. To say that "millenials" will not collect baseball cards seems silly. All it takes is a few thousand millenials with money to keep the hobby thriving. And being a millennial will not remove in certain individuals that innate need to collect cool stuff (which I refer to as the "collecting gene"). Nor will all millenials hate baseball or History. Human beings are too complex to box into groups by era of birth.

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by orly57

I feel like pigeonholing people under the rubric of "gen x" or "millennial" does not take into account individual tastes. The year I was born is not what defines me as an individual or a collector; my collecting gene, my love of history, and my love of baseball is what makes me collect baseball cards. We, the members of this great forum, are collectors by nature, not by choice. To say that "millenials" will not collect baseball cards seems silly. All it takes is a few thousand millenials with money to keep the hobby thriving. And being a millennial will not remove in certain individuals that innate need to collect cool stuff that I refer to as the collecting gene. Nor will all millenials hate baseball or History. Human beings are too complex to box into groups by era of birth.

Spot on Orlando

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by orly57

I feel like pigeonholing people under the rubric of "gen x" or "millennial" does not take into account individual tastes. The year I was born is not what defines me as an individual or a collector; my collecting gene, my love of history, and my love of baseball is what makes me collect baseball cards. We, the members of this great forum, are collectors by nature, not by choice. To say that "millenials" will not collect baseball cards seems silly. All it takes is a few thousand millenials with money to keep the hobby thriving. And being a millennial will not remove in certain individuals that innate need to collect cool stuff that I refer to as the collecting gene. Nor will all millenials hate baseball or History. Human beings are too complex to box into groups by era of birth.

+1 (as usual, it seems)

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think you're seeing the connection the right way. I collect all types of baseball memorabilia. I didn't collect RPPCs as a kid, but I do now because of my appreciation that grew out of collecting baseball cards. Saying something like "they didn't collect Ming vases as a child" totally ignores any previous appreciation of a related interest, like art, history, or heritage.

... or an interest in baseball. You can have an interest in baseball, without having collected baseball cards as a kid. Once that interest is cultivated, it's OK to then collect cards as an extension.
You can have an interest in college football without collecting college football as a kid (was there such a thing?).

I am always amused when someone doesn't agree with another, and the first leap they make is "you don't understand...", or "I don't think you're seeing the connection the right way...", like there is an obvious mental block.
For me, I just don't agree with you on the point. I think one can develop an interest later in life, without having that interest as a nine year old child. I'd hope people have evolved somewhat since they were nine.

At nine years old, I didn't like girls. I like girls now.

[joshuanip]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I'm still waiting for the NYC real estate market to collapse like everyone's been telling me is inevitable (since 1970). Totally not sustainable. Yeah, sure.

Reason why real estate held up is due to cap rate compression. Take a look at this chart on the risk free rate; created the mother of all junk rallies. Add to that limited land supply and rising replacement cost, and you got a secular boom. Going forward, that is an interesting forecast...

http://www.macrotrends.net/2016/10-y...te-yield-chart


On expensive high end cards...I like cardz...I think they are kool.