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Old 02-15-2018, 04:33 AM
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You don't have to be into expensive stuff to want/need a black light. It's one tool in your bag of tricks to detect *some* fakes/reprints. I use it mostly to determine whether photos are possibly restrikes / reprints.

One thing to remember. If paper glows it was likely produced after 1939. If it does not glow, you don't know when it was produced as some newer paper products do not have optical whiteners. Also remember that fakes/reprints can be created with old paper stock that was produced before 1940 and will not glow.

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I have the CFL type black lights. My bathroom does not have any windows so I chance out the regular CFLs in my vanity to the black light ones. No matter what type of light you are using they work best if they are your only light available.

A halogen light works great also, especially with alterations made to black. It makes Sharpie and most other added black appear grey.
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I use a black light on every card, every time no matter the cost and I only collect pre ww1. It helps pick up all flaws and alterations, it can help ID when a card has been removed from a book and other minor things.

I have a bar mounted above my desk under the shelf for the TV and a small one that goes to shows with me on my backpack. I tell the dealer I want to view it under my light, empty my bag and turn the bag so we both can see and place the card inside to make it dark and turn on the light. It will show you all sorts of things IMO.
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The chemicals that fluoresce were added to paper in the WWII era, and to photopaper in 1955.

As mentioned, if a supposedly Pre-WWII item does not fluoresce, that does not prove it old, because some modern paper and cardstock do not have the chemicals. However, the lack of fluorescence is consistent with it being old-- a good sign and helpful evidence.

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A black light, ruler, and magnifying glass are essential for vintage collectors IMO. There’s also nothing better than an example card that you know to be genuine for comparison. I know that’s not always possible with rare or high end stuff though. Many frauds and alterations are easily spotted using these items, but unfortunately not all.
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Everything he said.

BTW, I have the same black light Steve does.

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A black light, ruler, and magnifying glass are essential for vintage collectors IMO. There’s also nothing better than an example card that you know to be genuine for comparison. I know that’s not always possible with rare or high end stuff though. Many frauds and alterations are easily spotted using these items, but unfortunately not all.
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Timely enough, I am having published in the near future two books, one a new guide to authenticating early baseball cards and the second an introductory physics textbook on ultraviolet light. The first is obviously appropriate, but the second might be of interest due to all the fascinating areas ultraviolet light is used: authentication, astronomy, medicine, biology, geology, forensics, dentistry, security systems, etc.

So just wait a month or two and they should be out.
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Here is an example of a black light in action. The fake is a 1957 Seattle Popcorn card of George Munger. Although printed during a time when some paper stock had whiteners that caused the paper to fluoresce, none of the Seattle Popcorn cards (1954 - 1968) fluoresce under a black light. It might be instructive to compile a list of vintage post-war issues that should not fluoresce.

I discovered this fake in my collection a couple of years after acquiring it. I believe the seller dealt in good faith and because so much time had elapsed I did not pursue the issue with him. This card does not come up often, but luckily I got one shortly after my "discovery" for about half of what I had paid for the fake.
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I have the CFL type black lights. My bathroom does not have any windows so I chance out the regular CFLs in my vanity to the black light ones. No matter what type of light you are using they work best if they are your only light available.



A halogen light works great also, especially with alterations made to black. It makes Sharpie and most other added black appear grey.
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