Ungraded heavyweights?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by rats60

I have 520 t206s including Demmitt, O'Hara and all 4 Cobbs that are ungraded. I have 239 1933 Goudeys including all 4 Ruths and both Gehrigs that are ungraded. All were purchased long before PSA existed. There really isn't a need to grade them until time to sell them. I would think that there are quite a few high end cards sitting in long time collections ungraded.

+1 Whenever I hear about a new "find", whether it's a couple dozen Red Hindus, five Cobb backs, or something huge like the Black Swamp find, they're always ungraded. The first thing that the AH does is have them graded. I can't imagine how many more finds are sitting around waiting to be found.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Sean

+1 Whenever I hear about a new "find", whether it's a couple dozen Red Hindus, five Cobb backs, or something huge like the Black Swamp find, they're always ungraded. The first thing that the AH does is have them graded. I can't imagine how many more finds are sitting around waiting to be found.

Sean, why waste time with new material when the old posts cannot be improved?

Is a find a find before its found?
I think not, the logic's sound.
In the past, finds were found.
No one knows what's underground.

Future finds are speculation
If unfound, more consternation
If uncovered, jubilation
Risk, reward or humiliation

A searcher's quest may stay behind
without a clue of any kind.
You'll never know, not in your mind,
'cause it must be found to be a find.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Sean, why waste time with new material when the old posts cannot be improved?

Is a find a find before its found?
I think not, the logic's sound.
In the past, finds were found.
No one knows what's underground.

Future finds are speculation
If unfound, more consternation
If uncovered, jubilation
Risk, reward or humiliation

A searcher's quest may stay behind
without a clue of any kind.
You'll never know, not in your mind,
'cause it must be found to be a find.

Frank, is that from Lord of the Rings?

[Exhibitman]

There’s a lot of stuff out there with collectors who started in the 1970s and who are not likely to sell until they die and their estates are liquidated. I look at lots of my stuff and think about slabbing but opt not to. Why bother if I am not going to sell it? It is costly and bulky.

[Leon]

One board member, who is a very good hobby friend, has a T206 Wagner he bought long ago that is still ungraded. It is probably a 5 in condition.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Leon

One board member, who is a very good hobby friend, has a T206 Wagner he bought long ago that is still ungraded. It is probably a 5 in condition.

That would put it in the $2 - 3,000,000 range.

I would get it slabbed just for insurance purposes.

[x2drich2000]

Have either the Goode or Fritsch Wagners ever been graded?

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by Leon

One board member, who is a very good hobby friend, has a T206 Wagner he bought long ago that is still ungraded. It is probably a 5 in condition.

This is what I’m talking about. This is so unbelievable to me. I bout a card graded psa 2 that I would love to pop out but the price difference is So different between grades I don’t want to pop it out.

I also have a lot of ungraded vintage but that’s not really what I’m talking about. If you had a Wagner and it wasn’t obvious that it’s in poor condition, wouldn’t it kill you to know the dirrence in the grade/price?or 52 mantle? Or a sporting new Ruth?

[Republicaninmass]

Apparently people have vastly different views of "heavy weights"

[brianp-beme]

Due to the attached 3/4" thick wood plaque, I believe this more than qualifies as a 'heavyweight' card.

Brian

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Due to the attached 3/4" thick wood plaque, I believe this more than qualifies as a 'heavyweight' card.

Brian

At a minimum, it would qualify as 'slabbed'

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Due to the attached 3/4" thick wood plaque, I believe this more than qualifies as a 'heavyweight' card.

Brian

Looks like mans first attempt at slabbing. Lol where did you get this from? Judging by the etchings on the back it’s graded a 3.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Apparently people have vastly different views of "heavy weights"

Yes that is correct -

With the advent of eBay and having been "burned" several times, I now find that I don't "trust" any card of any higher value that is not currently slabbed by one of the top 3 TPGs.

Not sure where that threshold is exactly but I would say any card worth more than a couple hundred dollars if I am buying online and the card is advertised as NRMT.