PWCC Offering

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sterlingfox

I agree that GAI > PRO, especially when it comes to GAIs early slabs, but as long as the buyer knows that PRO is a trimmed card, that's all that really matters in this case.

That PRO holdered card might be trimmed. Or in other cases a completely fake card, as I have bought unwittingly before. And it wasn't a cheap learning lesson either. I had never seen a fake in a PRO holder until that one. It burned me bad as I resold it. I felt horrible and couldn't have given a refund any faster. It was several years ago. It was at the National and I even remember telling Mike Berkus (RIP, miss him at the Big Show) about the fiasco. Lesson learned.

...and that Joss auction has been taken down.

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Leon

...and that Joss auction has been taken down.

Well, there you go. I messaged them 4 days ago to give them the benefit of the doubt and let them fix it without putting it on a public forum. Nothing. And then it's down an hour after I finally posted here.

Makes no sense to me, but ok. Lesson learned.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Well, there you go. I messaged them 4 days ago to give them the benefit of the doubt and let them fix it without putting it on a public forum. Nothing. And then it's down an hour after I finally posted here.

Makes no sense to me, but ok. Lesson learned.

I emailed Brent and he took it down immediately. If anyone has a glaring issue like this one with an advertiser, and they PM me, I will do my best to help. On these kinds of issues I am very successful . I wish I was as successful at selling.

[glynparson]

If PSA grades something minimum size it means they DO NOT THINK IT WAS TRIMMED. They even refund the grading fee paid because they won't slab despite it being a legit card. If they thought it trimmed it usually gets the altered code or authentic altered if slabbed. If we are going to criticize companies we should at least know the facts and definitions of the terms we/they are going to use.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I don't mind them listing it so much as I mind the glowing description. The odds that it's unaltered are extremely low IMO, given what it would be worth in a different holder.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't mind them listing it so much as I mind the glowing description. The odds that it's unaltered are extremely low IMO, given what it would be worth in a different holder.

Seems like they have two descriptions these days: (1) its an amazing card, one of the best we've ever sold, seen, handled, remarkable color/centering/focus, worthy of attention or (2) no hyperbole or description, just this one of the 20,000 cards we are selling.

I realize with their volume it's not realistic to take a deep dive on every card like some the smaller AH's do. But they have to make more of an effort to be objective in describing cards with obvious issues.