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Old 12-04-2017, 09:49 AM
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Has anyone ever heard of a grading company called, 'Hall of Fame Grading Co?' I thought I had heard over the years of all of them, but not this one. The reason I enquire is that a quite nice '53 Goudey Ruth in the current PWCC auction is entombed by this rather peculiar grader who gave, what is a vg/ex card, a nrmt + grade. Are they for real?
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:57 AM
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I'm generally surprised they are offering a card from that grading co. I hope they accept returns if it's not authentic or altered.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:13 AM
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I'm generally surprised they are offering a card from that grading co. I hope they accept returns if it's not authentic or altered.
That bottom edge looks bad to me. And while I'm complaining, what idiot at "hall of fame grading" decided that the '33 Goudey is Ruth's "rookie card?"
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:20 AM
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That bottom edge looks bad to me. And while I'm complaining, what idiot at "hall of fame grading" decided that the '33 Goudey is Ruth's "rookie card?"
The same people at Beckett.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:33 AM
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Never heard of Hall Of Fame grading co
Is the card wavy or is it trimmed all over the place?

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Old 12-04-2017, 10:52 AM
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Default Grader's website ...
does not even seem to be real.... could not reach it...
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:56 PM
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They is no www.halloffamegrading.com on the internet as listed on the slab.
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the hall of fame example is actually intriguing .....
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:22 PM
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There is no such thing as a free lunch. I wouldn't touch it. Obviously there is something wrong with the card otherwise it would have been graded by PSA or SGC.
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:45 AM
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That bottom edge looks bad to me. And while I'm complaining, what idiot at "hall of fame grading" decided that the '33 Goudey is Ruth's "rookie card?"
Blame that on Beckett, they have listed the 1933 Goudey Ruths as his rookie for years. I hope they have since changed that as it was just a few years before he retired.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:30 PM
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Blame that on Beckett, they have listed the 1933 Goudey Ruths as his rookie for years. I hope they have since changed that as it was just a few years before he retired.
I often confuse 18th year cards for rookies.
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Hey John
I assume you meant 1933 and not 1953? That said I don't see any listed which are graded by that company. I do see this GAI Ruth and was going to sigh until I read the description.......Nice job on this one..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...-/401451821232

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PRO, not GAI

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I assume you meant 1933 and not 1953? That said I don't see any listed which are graded by that company. I do see this GAI Ruth and was going to sigh until I read the description.......Nice job on this one..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...-/401451821232

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Old 12-04-2017, 10:05 AM
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PRO, not GAI
Woops, my mistake. PRO is worse than GAI and that ain't saying much!!

And thanks David. I missed that one.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:19 AM
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Woops, my mistake. PRO is worse than GAI and that ain't saying much!!

And thanks David. I missed that one.
I agree that GAI > PRO, especially when it comes to GAIs early slabs, but as long as the buyer knows that PRO is a trimmed card, that's all that really matters in this case.
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I agree that GAI > PRO, especially when it comes to GAIs early slabs, but as long as the buyer knows that PRO is a trimmed card, that's all that really matters in this case.
That PRO holdered card might be trimmed. Or in other cases a completely fake card, as I have bought unwittingly before. And it wasn't a cheap learning lesson either. I had never seen a fake in a PRO holder until that one. It burned me bad as I resold it. I felt horrible and couldn't have given a refund any faster. It was several years ago. It was at the National and I even remember telling Mike Berkus (RIP, miss him at the Big Show) about the fiasco. Lesson learned.

...and that Joss auction has been taken down.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:07 AM
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Here is the one Yoda is talking about.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...wAAOSw0W5aIH4g
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I assume you meant 1933 and not 1953? That said I don't see any listed which are graded by that company. I do see this GAI Ruth and was going to sigh until I read the description.......Nice job on this one..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...-/401451821232

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It's the card just above the PRO card. I've never heard of the company, but their "mint 9" looks like a PSA 4 at best. And that's if it's not trimmed.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:11 AM
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Hey John
I assume you meant 1933 and not 1953? That said I don't see any listed which are graded by that company. I do see this GAI Ruth and was going to sigh until I read the description.......Nice job on this one..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...-/401451821232

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Leon, you are right a '33 not '53 Goudey yellow bkg Ruth, but the Bambino in this case is plasticized by this strange grading co, HOF grading company, and not PRO. As you know, I am scan challenged, but the card is in among the current PWCC auction with six days to go and stands at around $1900.
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Hey John
I assume you meant 1933 and not 1953? That said I don't see any listed which are graded by that company. I do see this GAI Ruth and was going to sigh until I read the description.......Nice job on this one..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...-/401451821232

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Old 12-04-2017, 11:43 AM
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Worthy of attention!!!

..also worthy of attention is a ?? $35 ?? shipping----for one slabbed card ?? Wow..

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Old 12-04-2017, 04:54 PM
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..also worthy of attention is a ?? $35 ?? shipping----for one slabbed card ?? Wow..

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Have you ever shipped a card worth a couple thousand dollars? Insurance is why the shipping cost is so high. If the card sells for $2500-3000 the shipping cost will be $35 or more.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:24 PM
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They also describe this one as mini! They didn’t just state that it is trimmed!

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Exceedingly popular Cobb production which presents like a VG+ card. Strong card stock with crisp edges and well formed corners. Irregular edge cuts along the top and bottom account for the assessment. Part of an exceptional run of ever popular T206's on the auction block this month. Nearly the entire issue is represented here with many showing better qualities than the technical grade suggests. The finest grouping to hit eBay in some time. One of over 12,000 cards, lots and sets up


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They also describe this one as mini! They didn’t just state that it is trimmed!
"MINSIZERQ" doesn't mean trimmed - it means it's factory-cut short, and they won't holder it. If they had determined it was trimmed, it would be "Authentic" instead of "MINSIZERQ," and would still be holdered.
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Well, there you go. I messaged them 4 days ago to give them the benefit of the doubt and let them fix it without putting it on a public forum. Nothing. And then it's down an hour after I finally posted here.
I'm guessing your original message was not really worthy of attention.
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