Not again! This is why I have a problem with PWCC!! Sorry for the rant!

[CMIZ5290]

A T206 common from a PSA 6 to a PSA 7 is about PSA 6 $225- PSA 7 $600, if it's a low population common, much more....

[glynparson]

Bobby it is in no way always an 8 to 9. You are sorely mistaken if you think that is always where the jump in price is. Some issues it is 6-7 some 7-8 some 8-9 and some 9-10. It is not an exact science. The older sets it tends to be lower. The jump from and 8 to a 9 in This set may be more then 3x. I wouldn't be shocked. There is no rule of when or where the jump happens. Heck it can even vary on certain cards within the same set. Your logic and this whole argument is just silly and borderline ignorant. Also anyone thinking that PWCC or any of the other mega sellers don't get more eyes on their auctions, are you stupid? Go to a mall sometime different retailers can have the same item at different levels and sometimes it will sell as well in one store with a higher price as another where its cheaper. Not everyone is always buying on price. Some buy on convenience, and with the added aspect here of online, some just want to deal with companies they know and trust will get them their purchase secure and in a timely manner. PWCC for all their flaws is excellent at this. Honestly not sure why a few of you have this for your hobby some of you do nothing but make complaints and act like children when you either don't get what you want or somebody sells something for more than you did.

[Exhibitman]

This is why shill bidding is so destructive. PWCC can do all the promotion it likes but the shilling atmosphere negates it. Did the Grove sell for more because the PWCC winner was pushed closer to his max bid? Was it just different eyes on the sales? Was there some other factor at work? We don’t know.

I will say this for PWCC, Probstein, etc.: they are procedurally honest. If you win an auction and you pay the price you will get the card. I’ve also won a few auctions lately at low prices but had the seller mysteriously lose the card. No worries of that with PWCC.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

This is why shill bidding is so destructive. PWCC can do all the promotion it likes but the shilling atmosphere negates it. Did the Grove sell for more because the PWCC winner was pushed closer to his max bid? Was it just different eyes on the sales? Was there some other factor at work? We don’t know.

I will say this for PWCC, Probstein, etc.: they are procedurally honest. If you win an auction and you pay the price you will get the card. I’ve also won a few auctions lately at low prices but had the seller mysteriously lose the card. No worries of that with PWCC.

agreed

PWCC and Probstein are two sellers that have a true auction format. Auctions cause more action/excitement than shopping does. Like many, I have received outbid notifications that caused a stir inside of me, and at times, I bid more than originally intended simply to be part of the action and not let the other bidder win lol. I am sure that is a part of the PWCC success.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Neal

agreed

PWCC and Probstein are two sellers that have a true auction format. Auctions cause more action/excitement than shopping does. Like many, I have received outbid notifications that caused a stir inside of me, and at times, I bid more than originally intended simply to be part of the action and not let the other bidder win lol. I am sure that is a part of the PWCC success.

PWCC isn't the only person who runs true auctions. I run true auctions. The Lefty Grove was a .99 cent auction at that. For an $1,100 card. That sold for $700. That got immediately flipped for $900.

[orly57]

Bobby,

I don't think it's really as complicated as you are making it. There is a reason guys send their stuff to PWCC rather than just auctioning it off themselves. Convenience is certainly part of it, but it's all about how many eyes are looking. It is the cornerstone of advertising. You are stuck on just the guy who is looking for a psa 6 cj Grover Alexander, but aren't taking into account the guy who may not be looking for that specifically, but spots it while glancing through PWCC's items. So while your auction will ONLY draw in the few guys who happened to search for a cj Grover Alexander that week, PWCC is being viewed by hundreds of collectors who may throw their hat in the ring. It's no different when you compare the prices that smaller AH's bring in versus REA or Heritage.

[packs]

It is different IF there is shilling though. No opinion from me on whether or not there is shilling going on.