T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[Sean]

I finally got around to scanning my Red Hindu. This is my only RH; it's part of my Cubs set.


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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Sean

I finally got around to scanning my Red Hindu. This is my only RH; it's part of my Cubs set.


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Hey Sean

Your red HINDU Chance would fit perfectly in my Chance run. Currently, I have approx. 14 different backs with this Chance (yellow portrait).
Perhaps we can work out a trade.

Anyhow, continuing from my last post, here's a show of the red HINDU cards of my Exclusive 12 guys.


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TED Z
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[tedzan]

MERRY CHRISTMAS



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And, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all of you Net54er's



TED Z
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[Sean]

Happy Holidays to all...

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[tedzan]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *






Post #1......Introduction....starting with Scot Reader's " Inside T206 " book, Inside T206
An excellent, very informative, and well written book that inspired many of us Net54ers to post our experiences and theory's regarding the complexities of the T206 series.

Plus, an early and very significant T206 thread was posted in June 2006 by Barry Arnold, titled T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection ?
Lots of brainstorming among Net54ers regarding T206's in this thread exploring various aspects of the T206 series (including surveys). Resulting in 363 meaningful posts.

In the Summer of 2006, Bill Brown posted his T206 Super-Set (excel) spreadsheet. Bill received 1000's of inputs from Net54ers for this spreadsheet. It was a great start
in the pursuit of what a T206 "master" set would be comprised of....T206 Super-Set

Sept 2007, I started a thread titled Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY to explore certain PIEDMONT 350 cards that I considered as rare as the Joe Doyle
"error" card. I eventually referred to these particular T206's as the Elite 11


Click on the topic of interest, then scan page for Post # noted


Post #2......The beginning of the six "Super-Prints"

Post #4......SOVEREIGN phantom "350/460" series (apple green cards)

Post #5......350/460 series backs identified

Post #8......350/460 series mutually-exclusive cards

Post #22.....T206 Plank mystery

Post #25.....T206 DRUM's...."A-B-C-D" connection

Post #26.....A-B-C-D connection expanded

Post #28.....1910 COUPON (T213-1)

Post #30.....Ty Cobb / Ty Cobb back

Post #31.....T206 Checklists....plus 1910 COUPON, T215-1 and Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb

Posts #33 & 34.....Richard Russell's unique T206 collection

Posts #35 - 36 & 38.....Exclusive 12 group (460-only series)

Post #39.....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 No Frame subjects = DRUM subjects

Posts #44 & 48.....Collecting T206 sets....tell us your story's

Post #54.....T206 all-PIEDMONT set

Post #65......SOVEREIGN set story

Post #69......SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 set story

Posts #72 & 74......AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 adventure

Posts #76 - 77......T206 cards RE-FRONTED (or re-backed)....FAKE's !

Post #93.....T206 "Proofs"

Post #96.....UZIT checklist

Post #97.....Spring of 1911....T206 era ends....the start of the "Golden era" begins

Post #98.....ATC Factory's associated with the White-Bordered cards (1909 - 1911)

Posts #101 & 106.....BROAD LEAF 460 checklist

Post #107.....Hobby greats....Frank Nagy and Bill Heitman

Post #108.....CAROLINA BRIGHTS checklist

Post #124.....PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 checklist

Posts #128 - 131..Why are Connie Mack, Jack Coombs, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Smoky Joe Wood missing in the T206 set ?

Posts #134 & 138.....Timeline of the T206 POLAR BEAR cards

Post #144.....T206 OLD MILL (Major League series) cards

Post #146..... T206 OLD MILL Southern League cards

Post #161.....Southern League cards (continued)

Post #162.....T206 Southern Leaguers Brown OLD MILL cards

Post #171.....The mysterious T206 brown LENOX cards

Post #181.....SWEET CAPORAL 460, Factory #30 backs (w/o Factory #42 overprint)

Post #190.....El Principe de Gales T206 cards

Post #196.....SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 overprint cards

Post #198.....Regional source of the Elite 11 cards

Posts #201 >> 227.....Show-n-tell us of your favorite T206's

Posts #231 >> 234.....Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s)

Posts #242 >> 248.....Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s)

Post #262.....T206 Southern League cards (re-visited)

Posts #263 >> 270.....T206 color printing errors......let's see some of these interesting T206's

Posts #271 >> 276.....T206 color printing errors......let's see some of these interesting T206's

Posts #282 >> 294.....The mysterious nature of the Red HINDU cards

Posts #302 >> 316.....Show-n-tell us of your MAGIE cards

Posts #328 >> 330.....T206 150-only subjects......


In this thread, I've tried to present some very complex aspects of the Series structure of the T206 set in a style which is understandable to most of the T206 collectors.
However, if not clear, don't be shy about asking questions. Post your questions on this thread. Or, email me directly with your questions.... tedzan11@comcast.net
In either event, I will gladly do my best to provide you clear and meaningful answer(s).


TED Z
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[tedzan]

I acquired a Magie card for my first T206 set many years ago. It was before the grading "craze" started.
I graded this Magie fairly as a Vg-Ex card. It cost me only $600 back then. Eventually I sold it to a good
friend. Then, when I started working on my all-PIEDMONT T206 set, I acquired this Magie......







The Magie card is only found with the PIEDMONT 150 back. American Lithographic caught this error quite early in their press
runs.Typically, their 150 series press runs printed the PIEDMONT backs first (on the pre-printed sheets of the fronts).





So, let's see how many how many Magie cards we can display here ?

Show-n-tell us about your Magie cards.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Rhotchkiss]

Fun thread Ted. Happy New Year.

Here is my Magie (sorry it's sideways, doing this off phone waiting for kid's wrestling practice to end). No magic story to this one- when I got back into collecting about 3 years ago, I went right for the t206s. First I bought a high-grade cy young with glove (my favorite), and this was my second purchase - just bc its iconic. I still think it's undergraded (a PSA 3) but what's in a grade?

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[greco827]

Originally Posted by Sean

I finally got around to scanning my Red Hindu. This is my only RH; it's part of my Cubs set.


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May sound odd, but that's a really solid PSA 1!!!

[tedzan]

Whoops....I forgot my beat-up McGraw. If anyone on this forum has a Vg to Ex red HINDU McGraw (for sale or trade) please contact me......
tedzan11@comcast.net


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TED Z
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[tedzan]

Some years ago, I observed that the rare red HINDU cards were more available with the Exclusive 12 subjects. To prove this point,
I began to acquire Exclusive 12 red HINDU cards starting October 2013. Within 2 months, I had 11 of them with red HINDU backs.
I still needed Sheckard (glove) to complete this run of 12.
Well, this elusive card took me 17 months to finally complete (April 2015) this sub-set.



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TED Z
T206 Reference
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[obcbeatle]

OK ... I'll bite I think I've asked this before in another thread ... but no one seemed to know at the time.

Is there any reference to how the T206 cards were were packaged and shipped to the different factories from the ALC? For instance ... were the sheets put in cardboard boxes, loaded on a train and then sent to each of the different factories in NY, Virginia, Ohio, etc? I'm trying to imagine a train load of T-206's passing through the Virginia country-side on their way to a Piedmont factory

[obcbeatle]

Originally Posted by obcbeatle

OK ... I'll bite I think I've asked this before in another thread ... but no one seemed to know at the time.

Is there any reference to how the T206 cards were were packaged and shipped to the different factories from the ALC? For instance ... were the sheets put in cardboard boxes, loaded on a train and then sent to each of the different factories in NY, Virginia, Ohio, etc? I'm trying to imagine a train load of T-206's passing through the Virginia country-side on their way to a Piedmont factory

Actually ... after re-reading my post from last night ... I got to realizing that the T206 cards were cut by the ALC ... correct? That is ... the ALC printed the fronts ... the ALC printed the various factory backs ... and then the ALC cut the sheets ... yes? Then the T206's were probably sent to all the different factories via rail. And then who knows how they got to the factories after reaching the rail station (car, horse/carriage, trolley ...?). Just curious. But not sure anyone else is Thanks!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by obcbeatle

Actually ... after re-reading my post from last night ... I got to realizing that the T206 cards were cut by the ALC ... correct? That is ... the ALC printed the fronts ... the ALC printed the various factory backs ... and then the ALC cut the sheets ... yes? Then the T206's were probably sent to all the different factories via rail. And then who knows how they got to the factories after reaching the rail station (car, horse/carriage, trolley ...?). Just curious. But not sure anyone else is Thanks!

Hi Jerry
You got it right....these gems we love so much were designed, printed, cut into 1 7/16 by 2 5/8 inch rectangles in this building in downtown New York City.



......and then sent by rail to the various Tobacco Factory's. Most (if not all) of these factory's had railroad lines adjacent to them.



TED Z

T206 Reference
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