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Old 11-17-2017, 08:11 AM
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Does anyone else think that some of the big $$$ items went lower than expected?

Or were the estimates way too high? Any thoughts? PSA 8 Mantle 52 Topps $408K?

Tony
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:41 AM
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Does anyone else think that some of the big $$$ items went lower than expected?

Or were the estimates way too high? Any thoughts? PSA 8 Mantle 52 Topps $408K?

Tony
Yes Clemente PSA 8 rookie sold heritage $20k. Rose PSA 9 rookie sold $40k. Koufax PSA 9 rookie sold $108k. Alcindor PSA 10 rookie sold $240k. Chamberlain PSA 9 rookie sold $22k are a few examples.

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Old 11-17-2017, 08:57 AM
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Default 1895 Hughie Jennings mounted photo

Posted on the memorabilia side but picked this up.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:06 AM
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Nothing in pre-war, but I grabbed one of these:
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:28 AM
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Posted on the memorabilia side but picked this up.
Brad - I really like that photo of Jennings. From what I understand, he only played in Brooklyn from 1899-1900 and then again in 1903. So, I think your c1895 date can be adjusted upwards by a few years. Really great image though!

I picked up this Perkins Studio Cabinet of Kid Gleason to go along with my Perkins Studio Cab of Jennings (see my avatar):
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:46 AM
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Brad - I really like that photo of Jennings. From what I understand, he only played in Brooklyn from 1899-1900 and then again in 1903. So, I think your c1895 date can be adjusted upwards by a few years. Really great image though!

I picked up this Perkins Studio Cabinet of Kid Gleason to go along with my Perkins Studio Cab of Jennings (see my avatar):
Derek, I was the under bidder on the Gleason and was really hoping to get it, just couldn't stay awake and went to bed before extended bidding began. At least I'm glad to see it went to a good home.

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Old 11-17-2017, 09:53 AM
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Some great wins.

Chuck, that Nap is T206 perfection!

Ryan, love the Wags and JJ.

I wonder if the lower than expected prices represent auction fatigue. I’ve talked to a couple dudes who have simply spent a ton of money already this year and are holding off for awhile. My bet is prices will start to spike again in Spring.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:44 AM
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I think the card market, with a few exceptions, is soft now. This is good if you are a buyer, bad if you are a seller. An auction house can only put out the catalog, they can’t make people bid (although Goldin and Hunt with their annoying phone calls sure try).
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Brad - I really like that photo of Jennings. From what I understand, he only played in Brooklyn from 1899-1900 and then again in 1903. So, I think your c1895 date can be adjusted upwards by a few years. Really great image though!

I picked up this Perkins Studio Cabinet of Kid Gleason to go along with my Perkins Studio Cab of Jennings (see my avatar):
Hi Derek,

Sorry yeah I don't know why I put 1895 they have written on the back 1896 Baltimore Orioles so that is why I was saying Baltimore and not Brooklyn.

Hope you are well,
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:28 PM
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Hi Derek,

Sorry yeah I don't know why I put 1895 they have written on the back 1896 Baltimore Orioles so that is why I was saying Baltimore and not Brooklyn.

Hope you are well,
Brad
Hmm..just realized that he is in a Baltimore uniform (I was thinking it was Brooklyn). Dang it! Nice pick-up Brad! The style looks very similar to the mid- to late-1890s Cabinets produced by Betz Studios of Baltimore (missing the black mount). I wonder if that’s where your photo comes from. Might be worth looking into...
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:06 AM
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Hmm..just realized that he is in a Baltimore uniform (I was thinking it was Brooklyn). Dang it! Nice pick-up Brad! The style looks very similar to the mid- to late-1890s Cabinets produced by Betz Studios of Baltimore (missing the black mount). I wonder if that’s where your photo comes from. Might be worth looking into...
quoting myself as I have found the exact same image of Jennings on a Betz Studio Cabinet (from a friend's private collection). I believe these were produced between 1896-1898 based on the subjects who appeared in this "set".

Here's a link to the Betz Studio Keeler that sold at REA back in 2007:

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...ce?itemid=9140

Brad - your Jennings image is definitely from Betz Studio and is very likely from this same "set" (as I have seen this exact image of Jennings but with the full black cabinet intact around it). Thought you'd like to know.
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I picked up this Perkins Studio Cabinet of Kid Gleason to go along with my Perkins Studio Cab of Jennings (see my avatar):
Love it, that definitely belongs in your collection, congrats!
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Been jealous of Jeff L's bitchen' 1933 Goudey Ott for a long long time and was finally able to land one almost as worthy.
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Been jealous of Jeff L's bitchen' 1933 Goudey Ott for a long long time and was finally able to land one almost as worthy.
Ho'omai'ka'i 'ana Kawika. That "Ott" to make you happy! Great card.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:37 AM
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Posted on the memorabilia side but picked this up.
I was the under bidder, you got a real nice photo at a real nice value.
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Yes Clemente PSA 8 rookie sold heritage $20k. Rose PSA 9 rookie sold $40k. Koufax PSA 9 rookie sold $108k. Alcindor PSA 10 rookie sold $240k. Chamberlain PSA 9 rookie sold $22k are a few examples.
The Clemente had poor centering for an 8. A Mantle with better centering sold earlier this year for 660k, one with worse centering sold for 384k in August. 408k for the Mantle wasn't that low. None of the cards that I was bidding on went low.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:52 AM
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The Clemente had poor centering for an 8. A Mantle with better centering sold earlier this year for 660k, one with worse centering sold for 384k in August. 408k for the Mantle wasn't that low. None of the cards that I was bidding on went low.
And a 52 mantle topps psa 8 sold for $282k in hunt auctions earlier this year too.
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Does anyone else think that some of the big $$$ items went lower than expected?

Or were the estimates way too high? Any thoughts? PSA 8 Mantle 52 Topps $408K?

Tony
big yes! i was surprised the Goudey Ruth (181) in a PSA 8 sold for 45.6 REA just sold a comparable 8 of that card for $66,000.

i wonder if 52T Mantles, especially low grade ones, are cooling off. Finally.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:23 AM
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Love that Jennings!
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:24 AM
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I was the under bidder of oh so many and only came away with this one. Happy though ... I've been wanting this pose for a long time.
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