FYI....T206 BROAD LEAF 460 confirmed list

[tedzan]

This is the 5th (part B) of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date listing of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.

This thread is an integral part of this comprehensive thread started in 2010...... " Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys ".
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=132611&page=6





NOTE....BROAD LEAF 460 cards are ONLY in the 350/460 series. These 35 subjects (of 63 subjects) in this series were theoretically printed with the BROAD LEAF 460 backs.

Group A
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To date, these 28 of the above 35 subjects have been confirmed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back......

Baker
M. Brown (Chicago)
Cobb (red portrait)........................super-print
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)...................super-print
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Mathewson (dark cap)....................super-print
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove)

Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
Cy Young (glove)



There are 7 subjects from this group that have yet to be discovered. I expect these T206's will eventually be found with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Ames (hands above head)
Bender (no trees)
Chance (portrait-yellow).................super-print
Chase (blue).................................super-print
Chase (dark cap)...........................super-print
Larry Doyle (bat)
Magee (bat)


New find........

Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62

Quick follow up on this purchase. I removed the Donlin and believe it or not it has a Broadleaf 460 back. Pretty good day!!

What an amazing find....it's your "Lucky day"....Baseballcrazy62


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[UncleStu]

Originally Posted by tedzan

There are 7 subjects from this group that have yet to be discovered. I expect these T206's will eventually be found with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Chase (blue).................................super-print

TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted, I wanted to add this to the thread, for reference. You were 100% correct about the existence of a Broad Leaf 460 Chase with the blue background-- I just had one graded this month.
I have very much appreciated your posts along with the extraordinary amount of information you have collected and shared regarding the T206 set. Thanks so much for helping further the knowledge base for these wonderful cards!


EDIT: I've been asked about the backstory. I was into baseball and baseball cards in the 1980's. A collection of T206, T205, and T210 were owned by a family member and passed on to me. At that time we didn't have information readily available and the price guides were based on condition only. I had noticed the difference in the backs (brand of cigarette, series, factory) and wanted to find out more. The lack of information meant my mom drove us an hour to meet with a card dealer who specialized in pre-war cards. As Ted has posted previously, there was basically no interest in back variations in that time period. And, unless it was a big card (Cobb, Young, Magie, etc) the collectors like Ted were seeking sharp corners and no stains. Also, you couldn't bring up population reports, or surveys, to determine rarity with a few clicks and keystrokes. We spent around an hour with the dealer and I can't remember exactly what he offered, but they valued my 300+ cards low enough that my teenage brain just decided to take them home and enjoy them. I am thanking myself every night.


EDIT#2: The card was sold before posting. I don't want to divulge too much, I'm letting the buyer make the decision to go public with ownership. I had a feeling this would attract some attention so I was hesitant to post on the thread, and if it had been anyone but Ted Z I would have stayed silent. With as much work as he's done, his theory deserved the validation!

[MVSNYC]

Wow, congrats. Can you post a back scan, please?

[UncleStu]

Sorry about that. I don't have imgur, photobucket, etc... and the site would only let me upload one picture directly. Here's the back

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by UncleStu

Ted, I wanted to add this to the thread, for reference. You were 100% correct about the existence of a Broad Leaf 460 Chase with the blue background-- I just had one graded this month.
I have very much appreciated your posts along with the extraordinary amount of information you have collected and shared regarding the T206 set. Thanks so much for helping further the knowledge base for these wonderful cards!

UncleStu

I really appreciate your kind words. I have been searching for a BROAD LEAF 460 Chase ever since 1984.

I presented a thread (posted April 2010), which hypothesized that in later press runs American Lithographic divided the 350/460 series into
two groups. Printing the BL 460 & red HINDU cards (35) separate from AB 460 & UZIT cards (28).These 2 groups are mutually-exclusive with
respect to their backs. Refer to.... 350/460 mutually-exclusive cards ....post #14.

This theory has stood the test of time by predicting a number of T206 subjects that were eventually discovered with these rare 460-type backs.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[tedzan]

Thirty-five cards were printed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back in the 350/460 series.

To date, these 30 subjects of the 35 in Group A have been confirmed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back......

Baker
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chase (blue).................................super-print
Cobb (red portrait)........................super-print
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)...................super-print
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Magee (with bat)
Mathewson (dark cap)....................super-print
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (bat)

O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
Cy Young (glove)



These 5 subjects from Group A have yet to be confirmed. I expect these T206's will eventually be discovered
with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Ames (hands above head)
Bender (no trees)
Chance (portrait-yellow).................super-print
Chase (dark cap)...........................super-print
Larry Doyle (bat)



TED Z

T206 Reference
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[stutor]

Amazing card UncleStu. Just incredible!!! Congratulations on socking that away years ago.

Ted…the Magee bat was confirmed a while back…I’m lucky to have it in my collection now. I’ll post a pic below. Thank you for keeping track of these and sharing your set knowledge and theories.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by stutor

Amazing card UncleStu. Just incredible!!! Congratulations on socking that away years ago.

Ted…the Magee bat was confirmed a while back…I’m lucky to have it in my collection now. I’ll post a pic below. Thank you for keeping track of these and sharing your set knowledge and theories.

Hi Sonny

I copied and pasted an old list which did not include Magee (bat). My T206 REFERENCE thread includes Magee.

Anyhow, thanks for pointing out my omission. It has been corrected.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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