FYI....T206 BROAD LEAF 460 confirmed list

[PiratesWS1979]

Interesting stuff, Thanks.

Just curious though, the cards I have say dist N.Y. or VA which I assume were factories in New York and Virginia. Were rare backs such as the Broad Leaf mainly distributed in a certain area of the country?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

Interesting stuff, Thanks.


Just curious though, the cards I have say dist N.Y. or VA which I assume were factories in New York and Virginia. Were rare backs such as the Broad Leaf mainly distributed in a certain area of the country?

T206 rare backs are found through out the country. This is primarily due to people moving from their original residences with their collections.
So nowadays, it is difficult to pinpoint the original source of most rare backs.

However, we are certain that DRUM cards were distributed in the St Louis area.

Factory #30 (NY) cards were mainly distributed in New York and the New England states.

Factory #25 (VA) cards were mainly distributed in states throughout the South and Pennsylvania.

There was a large find of red HINDU cards from Texas in recent years (although this is not necessarily indicative of their original distribution).

Factory #3 (LA) cards COUPON (T213-2 & T213-3) and Factory #8 (LA) cards VICTORY (T214) were distributed in packs of COUPON cigarettes
manufactured in Louisiana.
The 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards were distributed in cartons containing 100's of cigarettes.


TED Z
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[PiratesWS1979]

Originally Posted by tedzan

However, we are certain that DRUM cards were distributed in the St Louis area.

TED Z
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I live 35 miles from St Louis in an older town so visiting some estate sales my be beneficial. Thanks, Larry

[Blunder19]

Ted you can update the pop report on the seymour to 2.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

Ted you can update the pop report on the seymour to 2.

Hey Jamie, great to hear from you.

Your photo shows an SGC and a PSA graded Seymour's. The Pop Report data I listed in Post #9 pertains only to SGC graded cards. And, I assumed that the one for Seymour
in the SGC data accounts for your card.....since an SGC 30 is listed.


TED Z
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[tedzan]

This is the 5th (part B) of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date listing of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.

This thread is an integral part of this comprehensive thread started in 2010...... " Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys ".
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=132611&page=6





NOTE....BROAD LEAF 460 cards are ONLY in the 350/460 series. These 35 subjects (of 63 subjects) in this series were theoretically printed with the BROAD LEAF 460 backs.

Group A
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To date, these 28 of the above 35 subjects have been confirmed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back......

Baker
M. Brown (Chicago)
Cobb (red portrait)........................super-print
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)...................super-print
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Mathewson (dark cap)....................super-print
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove)

Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
Cy Young (glove)



There are 7 subjects from this group that have yet to be discovered. I expect these T206's will eventually be found with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Ames (hands above head)
Bender (no trees)
Chance (portrait-yellow).................super-print
Chase (blue).................................super-print
Chase (dark cap)...........................super-print
Larry Doyle (bat)
Magee (bat)


New find........

Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62

Quick follow up on this purchase. I removed the Donlin and believe it or not it has a Broadleaf 460 back. Pretty good day!!

What an amazing find....it's your "Lucky day"....Baseballcrazy62


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[UncleStu]

Originally Posted by tedzan

There are 7 subjects from this group that have yet to be discovered. I expect these T206's will eventually be found with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Chase (blue).................................super-print

TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted, I wanted to add this to the thread, for reference. You were 100% correct about the existence of a Broad Leaf 460 Chase with the blue background-- I just had one graded this month.
I have very much appreciated your posts along with the extraordinary amount of information you have collected and shared regarding the T206 set. Thanks so much for helping further the knowledge base for these wonderful cards!


EDIT: I've been asked about the backstory. I was into baseball and baseball cards in the 1980's. A collection of T206, T205, and T210 were owned by a family member and passed on to me. At that time we didn't have information readily available and the price guides were based on condition only. I had noticed the difference in the backs (brand of cigarette, series, factory) and wanted to find out more. The lack of information meant my mom drove us an hour to meet with a card dealer who specialized in pre-war cards. As Ted has posted previously, there was basically no interest in back variations in that time period. And, unless it was a big card (Cobb, Young, Magie, etc) the collectors like Ted were seeking sharp corners and no stains. Also, you couldn't bring up population reports, or surveys, to determine rarity with a few clicks and keystrokes. We spent around an hour with the dealer and I can't remember exactly what he offered, but they valued my 300+ cards low enough that my teenage brain just decided to take them home and enjoy them. I am thanking myself every night.


EDIT#2: The card was sold before posting. I don't want to divulge too much, I'm letting the buyer make the decision to go public with ownership. I had a feeling this would attract some attention so I was hesitant to post on the thread, and if it had been anyone but Ted Z I would have stayed silent. With as much work as he's done, his theory deserved the validation!