T216s, how do they stack up with their E card counterparts?

[Yoda]

I have a Cobb SGC 1.5 with a Kotton Cigarettes- Mild and Sweet back (sorry, scanning is not one of my strengths) that I doubt I will ever part with. One thing I always wondered is why a single tobacco company issued their product with 3 different backs and a limited distribution, and thought perhaps each brand carried a different type or strength of tobacco. These are the issues that keep me awake at night.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I have a Cobb SGC 1.5 with a Kotton Cigarettes- Mild and Sweet back (sorry, scanning is not one of my strengths) that I doubt I will ever part with. One thing I always wondered is why a single tobacco company issued their product with 3 different backs and a limited distribution, and thought perhaps each brand carried a different type or strength of tobacco. These are the issues that keep me awake at night.

Which Cobb, batting or leaning on bat?

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by edjs

Which Cobb, batting or leaning on bat?

Leaning on bat.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leaning on bat.

My favorite. All Time.

[Aaron Seefeldt]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I have a Cobb SGC 1.5 with a Kotton Cigarettes- Mild and Sweet back (sorry, scanning is not one of my strengths) that I doubt I will ever part with. One thing I always wondered is why a single tobacco company issued their product with 3 different backs and a limited distribution, and thought perhaps each brand carried a different type or strength of tobacco. These are the issues that keep me awake at night.

Hi John... you always do have some nice little goodies tucked away. That's a great Cobb!

[buymycards]

Every time that I start feeling like I am pretty knowledgeable about a particular set, a thread like this comes up and I realize how little I know compared to other collectors.

Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Rick

[edjs]

So, we have spoke to great lengths about the T216 (which is awesome), but not at all about the E series cards. I have no idea which E series have specific players and which don't, but I will go with an example. This image of Crawford I believe is found in E90-1, E92 (though I don't know if it is available in Dockman, Croft Cocoa, and Croft black, blue, and red), E101, E102, E105, and E106, as well as T216. I know there are a lot of cards that the images are shared by the T216 images, some like this Speaker are in, say E90-1, but not in the others. What I am trying to see is if there are E series where the image is harder to find, and therefore more expensive, or are the T216 images normally going to be tougher and more valuable than the E series equivalents. I am guessing that most cards would be more rare and most valuable with a Croft's Red back, though when you factor in VE and MINO, I don't know if that holds true across the board. I also know I haven't included D303s, because that is another story. And keep on showing cards, they are awesome.

[ullmandds]

dont look now...but heres another crawford blank back!

[edjs]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

dont look now...but heres another crawford blank back!

Twinsies!

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by edjs

So, we have spoke to great lengths about the T216 (which is awesome), but not at all about the E series cards. I have no idea which E series have specific players and which don't, but I will go with an example. This image of Crawford I believe is found in E90-1, E92 (though I don't know if it is available in Dockman, Croft Cocoa, and Croft black, blue, and red), E101, E102, E105, and E106, as well as T216. I know there are a lot of cards that the images are shared by the T216 images, some like this Speaker are in, say E90-1, but not in the others. What I am trying to see is if there are E series where the image is harder to find, and therefore more expensive, or are the T216 images normally going to be tougher and more valuable than the E series equivalents. I am guessing that most cards would be more rare and most valuable with a Croft's Red back, though when you factor in VE and MINO, I don't know if that holds true across the board. I also know I haven't included D303s, because that is another story. And keep on showing cards, they are awesome.

Ed, I can confirm the Crawford exists for all of the sets you have listed (as well as the E92 Nadja). I think you are right that in most cases the E92 Red Crofts will be more rare and more valuable than any T216 including a VE or Mino. However, I think this has more to do with the overall population difference than a player to player comparison. I am only aware of 15 red crofts in total where SGC alone has graded at least 35 VE.

DJ

[edjs]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Ed, I can confirm the Crawford exists for all of the sets you have listed (as well as the E92 Nadja). I think you are right that in most cases the E92 Red Crofts will be more rare and more valuable than any T216 including a VE or Mino. However, I think this has more to do with the overall population difference than a player to player comparison. I am only aware of 15 red crofts in total where SGC alone has graded at least 35 VE.

DJ

So how about the Speaker? I think it is a tough image in E90? Is that the toughest Speaker with this image? I'm sure there are others, how about John's Cobb, for example? Is the T216 the harder to find than E series of the same image (I think we can all agree Croft's Red is toughest of all)? Which players would be harder to find in T216 and which would be harder in E (insert the specific series)? I should also mention I know they are in Tango Eggs as well, since I mentioned D303.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by edjs

So, we have spoke to great lengths about the T216 (which is awesome), but not at all about the E series cards. I have no idea which E series have specific players and which don't, but I will go with an example. This image of Crawford I believe is found in E90-1, E92 (though I don't know if it is available in Dockman, Croft Cocoa, and Croft black, blue, and red), E101, E102, E105, and E106, as well as T216. I know there are a lot of cards that the images are shared by the T216 images, some like this Speaker are in, say E90-1, but not in the others. What I am trying to see is if there are E series where the image is harder to find, and therefore more expensive, or are the T216 images normally going to be tougher and more valuable than the E series equivalents. I am guessing that most cards would be more rare and most valuable with a Croft's Red back, though when you factor in VE and MINO, I don't know if that holds true across the board. I also know I haven't included D303s, because that is another story. And keep on showing cards, they are awesome.

Here I go again, but I guess I can't help myself. When Leon sold his amazing type collection, I managed to snag the E92 Harry Davis SGC5 Crofts Red Back, a card I well knew he had. That one is one of a few I probably will be buried with.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Here I go again, but I guess I can't help myself. When Leon sold his amazing type collection, I managed to snag the E92 Harry Davis SGC5 Crofts Red Back, a card I well knew he had. That one is one of a few I probably will be buried with.

Why would you hate the card so much you would want to be buried with it? The card would get ruined!

[edhans]

That Crawford with the red background is not in E90-1. The pose and background are different.