T216s, how do they stack up with their E card counterparts?

[edhans]

That Crawford with the red background is not in E90-1. The pose and background are different.

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by edhans

That Crawford with the red background is not in E90-1. The pose and background are different.

Ed, you're absolutely right. I had a brain malfunction

DJ

[edjs]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Ed, you're absolutely right. I had a brain malfunction

DJ

Me too!

[edjs]

I guess that is why I want to discuss these cards, it is hard to know which ones are in which sets, and especially which ones that are common in one set, but tough as nails in a different set.

[ullmandds]

me thinks if you are looking for a specific card in many of the sets being discussed,,,t216, d303...they are all tough. no rarities within these sets im aware of...look at the pops...thery're all tough!!!

[edjs]

Pete, so true. However, among the rarities, there are some that are uber rare. This Bridwell with a MINO back is in the uber rare group. Just using the SGC population for this card in E90 is 36, the E106 is 14, the T216 Kotton has a listing with 5 Kotton that does not differentiate between this and the sliding image, 1 Kotton that is this image, this one MINO, and one VE that does not identify the image, so it could be this one, or might be sliding. D303 and Tango eggs doesn't identify whether they are sliding or this image, or if the one D303 is Mothers or General, and there are 5 Tango Eggs. So the pop reports are really hard to go by, in general. And we all know the reputation the pop reports have, between collectors that abhor slabbing their cards and the re-subs that change the pops.

My only objectives in this thread was to open dialogue and share collective wisdom on this board. People learn things from a nice, open forum discussion. Look at Steve's comments about T216 backs, these are things I would never know if I didn't ask. It is fun to learn about the cards and images that you love, and also have the opportunity to show your cards at the same time. Thanks to everyone for posting so far, it may be more fun to read about so and so doing something that bugs someone else, and all the mud slinging comments that go along with it, but I miss some of the old educational threads that were designed to just advance everyone's understanding of different card series. I don't have the experience that many of you do, I have been collecting for less than four years, many of you have forgot more than I can ever learn at this point. So I try to read the archives, and ask questions that will open a discussion. This is one of my all time favorites:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=146130

[ullmandds]

well in the example you provided...to me...this is effective at showing how much tougher t216 is compared to e106 compared to e90-1. I am not ware of any uber rarities within t216 especially in light of TPG'ers poor attention in detailing backs when graded. Within my miller run there are a handful of cards where the pop reports show low to moderate single digit pops...yet I don't consider them "uber rarities" within their set.