1952 Topps Pete Reiser Gray Back on Ebay

[Bestdj777]

Delete.

[swarmee]

The winner has the ability to have PSA review it and if PSA deemed it a regular back, it would be subject to their insured guarantee to downgrade the card and reimburse the owner the difference.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

The question was whether it has a gray back. It definitely doesn't look like it from the pictures. PSA messes up variations pretty frequently, so what they say isn't really a deciding factor.

I've owned quite a few gray backs and have seen psa make 2 mistakes labeling them wrong.

#130 Sheldon Jones labeled gray back (wrong series)

#189 reiser sold in REAa few years back mislabeled as a gray back.


Are they any other examples of mislabeked grays to support your claim

[Bestdj777]

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[swarmee]

He was specifically asking about 1952 Gray Backs, not all the other mechanical errors that PSA puts together. That is what your comment seemed to convey.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by swarmee

He was specifically asking about 1952 Gray Backs, not all the other mechanical errors that PSA puts together. That is what your comment seemed to convey.

Fair enough. I was being a grumpy old man and deleted it.

[tedzan]

I find Billy Martin is about as tough to find as Pete Reiser with these mysterious gray backs.

I need 28 more of these gray backs to complete my 1952 TOPPS master set.


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[Republicaninmass]

After the PWCC auctions tonight, they arent Getting any cheaper

[glynparson]

There was an individual at the national, walking the floor (not set up) with a 7 and an 8 gray back Martin or was it a 6 and 7 either way they were nice cards.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I find Billy Martin is about as tough to find as Pete Reiser with these mysterious gray backs.

I need 28 more of these gray backs to complete my 1952 TOPPS master set.

Guy on the PSA board bought one and didn't even know what a gray back is. Expect it on the market soon:
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...topps-question

[Republicaninmass]

I dont think it's a gray back. The cream backs have different varieties as well

[savedfrommyspokes]

Below is an image of the GB next to a normal WB...to me there is a discernible difference. The GB appears consistent with my lone GB I have in my collection. My GB came as part of a lot I purchased from this same seller of the 52 189 GB PSA 1.5. This seller sells mainly modern, but offers vintage through consignment. It is possible that their consignor realized they were mistakenly including 52 grey back cards in their lots and started having them graded to offer as singles.

[Republicaninmass]

When you have the top 3-4 gray back guys already bidding on a card, it's safe to assume it's legit.

[irv]

The Reiser in this lot was mislabeled and properly removed as it should have been. The others in this lot, imo, look a lot different than the Reiser and imo, far more believable.
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...plete-psa-set/

Until the day comes where I can actually hold one in hand, I guess I am going to continue to struggle with these.

Some that I have seen remove all doubt as they are clearly gray, both front and back, but others leave me wondering if an overzealous TPG made a mistake.

[Brianruns10]

24 hours in and the card is already up to $1900.

Anyone want to take side bets on what this card finishes out at? I predict $4500.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Brianruns10

24 hours in and the card is already up to $1900.

Anyone want to take side bets on what this card finishes out at? I predict $4500.

If it's as tough as I have read it is, I'd say it will get that for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-1...EAAOSwiOdZs~0M

[Brianruns10]

Originally Posted by irv

If it's as tough as I have read it is, I'd say it will get that for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-1...EAAOSwiOdZs~0M

And really that high price is what keeps me from bidding on this card. Because it just doesn't quite make sense that there are far fewer Reiser gray backs graded by PSA, given that he would've been printed in the same ratios as the other grayback players. And he was a fairly well known player, compared to the others in that series, which makes it doubly odd the grayback seemingly survives in fewer numbers than the others.

Personally I suspect there are more out there, and when a card like this fetches a high price, it tends to get people checking their cards. I would not be surprised at all if a couple more turn up in the months to come, and as a result, we'll see that population tick up a bit.

[Brianruns10]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

The question was whether it has a gray back. It definitely doesn't look like it from the pictures. PSA messes up variations pretty frequently, so what they say isn't really a deciding factor.

It looks fine to me, and the obverse has the characteristic faded yellow look. I'd have no problem bidding on this.