Goldin

[KingFisk]

Say, isn't that a young Branch Rickey?

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[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Rumor is that they found a semi truckload of items that were being sold by Goldin on HSN 20 years ago. They are easily worth 8 figures.

As long as there are least five zeroes at the start of the 8 figures.

Brian

[botn]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

IF it is that, is it really an 8 figure item? Just curious......

Greg, I just wrote the same thing to Peter yesterday in an email. The contract would be a remarkable item but I cannot wrap my head around it being a 10 million dollar item.

[Republicaninmass]

Maybe he's including the 2 figures AFTER the decimal point?

[68Hawk]

Uncut full T206 sheet with Wagner....
If you cut it down you have a '10'.

[sycks22]

This might've been touched on, but I saw in a Heritage magazine that they're auctioning off Jackie's first jersey from his rookie year.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sycks22

This might've been touched on, but I saw in a Heritage magazine that they're auctioning off Jackie's first jersey from his rookie year.

if thats what this golden goose is...no way it fetches 8 figure imo.

[hshrimps]

I think they are selling Michael Jordan's Mansion that Mike used to live at in Illinois..... North of Chicago or something

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by conor912

Apparently he's not announcing it until September 6 now.

September 6th is now here.



So



very



excited

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by sycks22

This might've been touched on, but I saw in a Heritage magazine that they're auctioning off Jackie's first jersey from his rookie year.

The email I got said they were auctioning a jersey used in his rookie season on Jackie Robinson day but not his first jersey (I am pretty certain but can't find the email now). They are expecting 2 million +

Edit: found link:
http://intelligentcollector.com/jack...-17--tem090517

[MVSNYC]

So, is there a press conference happening now for the announcement?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

So, is there a press conference happening now for the announcement?

Multiple probably.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

So, is there a press conference happening now for the announcement?

Today at 10EST.

we are going to be making the announcement to the world in a televised press conference at 10 am EDT Wednesday September 6th

- http://www.auctionreport.com/consign...ment-deadline/

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

The email I got said they were auctioning a jersey used in his rookie season on Jackie Robinson day but not his first jersey (I am pretty certain but can't find the email now). They are expecting 2 million +

Edit: found link:
http://intelligentcollector.com/jack...-17--tem090517

This is a Heritage article, not Goldin....

[JamesGallo]

Who in the world will be watching at 10pm. Did they say what channel this will be on?

James G

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

Who in the world will be watching at 10pm. Did they say what channel this will be on?

James G

Where are you getting 10 PM, it's AM.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

Who in the world will be watching at 10pm. Did they say what channel this will be on?

James G

Your comment reminds me of a Yogi'ism. Questioning who will be watching while asking the channel? "No one goes there anymore it's too crowded"

.

[AJR]

10AM has come and gone...

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

This is a Heritage article, not Goldin....

That is correct. I was responding to a post about a Heritage auction.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Leon

Your comment reminds me of a Yogi'ism. Questioning who will be watching while asking the channel? "No one goes there anymore it's too crowded"

.

"What time is it, Yogi?"

"You mean now?"


.

[edjs]

This kinda reminds me of Y2K, I woke up and asked if the world ended while I slept.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

Who in the world will be watching at 10pm. Did they say what channel this will be on?

James G

Got UHF?

[Shoeless Moe]

Maybe this?

https://goldinauctions.com/viewuserd...tracts-Auction

[Klrdds]

$36 million ....
Count me out .

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

$36 million ....
Count me out .

I will take the under on that one.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I will take the under on that one.

I'll take the under on 10% of that one.

[conor912]

Yeah, contracts. Boy...he's really putting himself on the line with this one. If it comes nowhere close to $36M I would think that'd be a whole lot of egg on Goldin's face.

[CardMD]

Jackie contracts!


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[botn]

Great items but not even close to 10 million, as I stated earlier. Not the first or last time he will go out on a limb and make a fool of himself but it has obviously not hurt his ability to bring in some great consignments.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by conor912

Yeah, contracts. Boy...he's really putting himself on the line with this one. If it comes nowhere close to $36M I would that'd be a whole lot of egg on Goldin's face.

The appraisal was from an outside party, so not sure they will look bad if it doesn't go that high. But he did say $10 million so that number is tied to him.

I think there's a chance that these are a focus of history and civil rights collectors far beyond the sports world. If that is the case, it could mean far more attention than items like Ruth items would get.

I don't see it getting $10 million, but I think it is the kind of item that has a chance... At the same time, it could also go for $1 million and I would not be surprised...

[Peter_Spaeth]

I hope that it ends up being accessible to the public.

[btcarfagno]

I will be a bit surprised if these don't get $10,000,000. It's two of the most important documents in the history of the United States.

Tom C

[Peter_Spaeth]

For reference, or not, a 1949 Jackie contract sold earlier this year for 275K or so.

[bn2cardz]

To reiterate what I put in a previous post it is hard for me to fathom they would bring more money than George Washington's personal annotated copy of the Constitution and proposed Bill of Rights, which sold for just shy of $10mil in 2012.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

To reiterate what I put in a previous post it is hard for me to fathom they would bring more money than George Washington's personal annotated copy of the Constitution and proposed Bill of Rights, which sold for just shy of $10mil in 2012.

If an African-American celebrity/celebrities get into a bidding war, it could.........

[OsFan]

Wow

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

If an African-American celebrity/celebrities get into a bidding war, it could.........

I don't think the appeal would be limited to African-Americans.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

If an African-American celebrity/celebrities get into a bidding war, it could.........

Maybe, but even 1 of 3 senate copies of the 13th amendment brought only (relatively speaking) 2.4mil in Sotheby's last year.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...88/lot.79.html

It isn't my job to come up with estimates, so the experts may see something I don't.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't think the appeal would be limited to African-Americans.

Agreed!!! Didn't mean to limit it to that.......

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Maybe, but even 1 of 3 senate copies of the 13th amendment brought only (relatively speaking) 2.4mil in Sotheby's last year.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...88/lot.79.html

It isn't my job to come up with estimates, so the experts may see something I don't.

There is something more visceral with regard to the civil rights movement however. While the 13th amendment ended the practice of slavery, the fact that 80+ years later Jackie Robinson's introduction to professional whites only baseball was such a major event speaks to the efficacy of the 13th amendment in terms of actual civil rights in practice. These two contracts played an enormous part in pushing forward civil rights in America. They are also tied to and signed by a beloved figure in recent American history. I don't know that they will go for $10 mil. I think there is a good chance that they will if the right people know about the auction.

Tom C

[earlywynnfan]

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking: Man, those sigs would look great cut and put into a 1/1 card!!

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

There is something more visceral with regard to the civil rights movement however. While the 13th amendment ended the practice of slavery, the fact that 80+ years later Jackie Robinson's introduction to professional whites only baseball was such a major event speaks to the efficacy of the 13th amendment in terms of actual civil rights in practice. These two contracts played an enormous part in pushing forward civil rights in America. They are also tied to and signed by a beloved figure in recent American history. I don't know that they will go for $10 mil. I think there is a good chance that they will if the right people know about the auction.

Tom C

I understand all of that, but you statement at the end expressing your potential doubt of the estimate is what I am talking about. These could go for 3x the 13 amendment and still not break the 10mil mark.

This is merely a thought provoking conversation as the answer will be known soon enough and we, potentially ,will have a new precedent for what an historical document could sell for.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking: Man, those sigs would look great cut and put into a 1/1 card!!

haha. I am sure Topps and Panini are already trying to work on their finances to get it done.

[botn]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

This is merely a thought provoking conversation as the answer will be known soon enough and we, potentially ,will have a new precedent for what an historical document could sell for.

“We look forward to an electric night of bidding on November 16th, but if the right buyer comes forward before the auction and can ensure these documents will be shared with the public, we’ll certainly consider a private sale.” At which point we might never get the answer.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by botn

“We look forward to an electric night of bidding on November 16th, but if the right buyer comes forward before the auction and can ensure these documents will be shared with the public, we’ll certainly consider a private sale.” At which point we might never get the answer.

I have never heard of an auction like that, are there precedents?

To answer my own question, it looks like the same thing happened with Piazza's 9/11 jersey last year.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...cly-displayed/

[botn]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have never heard of an auction like that, are there precedents?

Glad I am not the only one to find the quote somewhat puzzling.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking: Man, those sigs would look great cut and put into a 1/1 card!!

That made me laugh and throw up in my mouth a little.

Tom C

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Jackie Robinson's first contract with the Brooklyn Dodgers organization?

Looks like you got it right!!!!!!!!!!!


Steve

[puckpaul]

I would rather have his first Dodgers jersey thannthe contracts. Jerseys help you feel the game and him actually playing, to me, surpasses the contracts. But that is me! Love jerseys.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

I would rather have his first Dodgers jersey thannthe contracts. Jerseys help you feel the game and him actually playing, to me, surpasses the contracts. But that is me! Love jerseys.

That was my guess....and I would agree with you. It helps the $10 mil cause that there are two super important contracts and not just one.

Tom C