Ashamed - Topps T206 Buy Back Fraud

[DerekMichael]

Originally Posted by Leon

Derek
All of the info was supplied to me by another board member but what was supplied looked spot on (obviously). I don't know positively of others but can only imagine. As far as I know a lot, if not most of the cards being put into the holders were AUT type cards. And on a lot of the before and after pictures, if not all, the after ones were cleaned too. That in itself isn't too big of a deal. All of other stuff is.

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Thank you Leon, very much. I am just curious and want to make sure I am understanding correctly - is there any reason to believe there was trimming or recoloring, or anything of that nature with these cards?

I am still curious to know roughly how many of these were sold if and when that information becomes available.

I hope that everyone will be given proper restitution and that Larry can find peace. I apologize and I am not trying to be nosey with my line of questioning ... I am just trying to take all of this in as information becomes available. I hope the number of these that were sold is small enough that the issue can be rectified.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

Thank you Leon, very much. I am just curious and want to make sure I am understanding correctly - is there any reason to believe there was trimming or recoloring, or anything of that nature with these cards?

I am still curious to know roughly how many of these were sold if and when that information becomes available.

I hope that everyone will be given proper restitution and that Larry can find peace. I apologize and I am not trying to be nosey with my line of questioning ... I am just trying to take all of this in as information becomes available. I hope the number of these that were sold is small enough that the issue can be rectified.

No need to apologize and you aren't being nosey. This fraud seems to have affected a lot of board members and other hobbyists. As I stated, I think all or most of the cards he was currently putting in those holders were already AUT, so that means yes they were altered. I don't know if he was doing serious alterations to them or not. I don't think i saw anything but cleaning but that doesn't mean anything ....

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[DerekMichael]

Originally Posted by Leon

No need to apologize and you aren't being nosey. This fraud seems to have affected a lot of board members and other hobbyists. As I stated, I think all or most of the cards he was currently putting in those holders were already AUT, so that means yes they were altered. I don't know if he was doing serious alterations to them or not. I don't think i saw anything but cleaning but that doesn't mean anything ....

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Thank you for providing us with the current information and answering my questions. I appreciate it. Hopefully as time passes we will learn the full scope of what took place. Lets hope that the amount of these that were sold is small and that everyone can be made whole.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

Thank you for providing us with the current information and answering my questions. I appreciate it. Hopefully as time passes we will learn the full scope of what took place. Lets hope that the amount of these that were sold is small and that everyone can be made whole.

Over a 10 year period?? I highly doubt it was "small". I think you would be amazed at the number out there.

[rdixon1208]

Buy the card not the holder

[iwantitiwinit]

Given the lack of communication from Larry this thread might be more aptly named..."not really that ashamed".

[Leon]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Given the lack of communication from Larry this thread might be more aptly named..."not really that ashamed".

At 930pm last night he was banned so can't post anymore. OF course if he wants to and gets ahold of me I will let him. But for now he is no longer on our board.

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