Ashamed - Topps T206 Buy Back Fraud

[bn2cardz]

Am I safe in assuming it hast to do with these?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...yback&_sacat=0

[gemmint77]

Great, I have been buying and collecting the Topps T206 buybacks for years. I have about 15 now still in the Topps holder. Have cut about 6 out and had them graded by BVG. What a mess. Lesson learned. Will only buy graded from now on...

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by gemmint77

lesson learned. Will only buy graded from now on...

lol!

[Michael B]

Lesson learned. Will only buy graded from now on...[/QUOTE]

Why wouldn't you just buy raw? From what I have gathered people are paying a premium for cards in a crappy TOPPS cardboard and plasticine holder when the actual card would be considerably less if bought without that holder.

[Stonepony]

"And why would anyone spend all that time and energy committing fraud for what appears to equate to less than minimum wage?"

Ask Battlefield...those low $ transactions fly under the radar but eventually add up to some serious dough

[AddieJoss]

I've read this whole string and wonder if real T206s were put into the buyback holders, or was it fake T206s put into the buyback holders, thus more profitable (and not questioned for authenticity) .
Cory Weiser

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by AddieJoss

I've read this whole string and wonder if real T206s were put into the buyback holders, or was it fake T206s put into the buyback holders, thus more profitable (and not questioned for authenticity) .
Cory Weiser

When I caught him, he was buying authentic/real T206s raw off of Ebay as well as buying Topps Buyback cards with some cheap autographed modern player card inside and switching them.

In my original thread from 2009, I had all three stages of the process laid out. Not the actual switch, but both buying transactions from Ebay, then the "FrankenT206" Buyback. I had posted scans as well, but since then they are no longer in my original thread.

On a good note, at least this time I didn't have to call Leon and interrupt his poker game. Remember that Leon?

Jantz

[DerekMichael]

Larry or Leon,

About how many of these tainted T206 have been sold over the years? 5? 20? 100? More?

Also, am I understanding correctly that in at least some instances the cards themselves were altered in some way?

Derek Hogue

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

The way to make money is with trimmed a d altered cards. There are definitely a few that fit this description in this instance, and generally people felt safe buying the buy backs because they were vetted.

[drcy]

A funny thing is, and if I'm correct in thinking what were the T206 'buybacks,' Topps usually used really low grade cards, didn't assign a grade, once in a while inserted the wrong issue and people here wondered why people would give a premium to a low grade T206 just because it was in one of those Topps holders.

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by drcy

A funny thing is, and if I'm correct in thinking what were the T206 'buybacks,' Topps usually used really low grade cards, didn't assign a grade, once in a while inserted the wrong issue and people here wondered why people would give a premium to a low grade T206 just because it was in one of those Topps holders.

I got a pretty nice Zach Wheat 205 out of one of these Topps boxes. It was in Ex+ condition. The others were it Fr-Good condition. Maybe it was from the T-205 reprint boxes though. Should have kept the Wheat. Others were really no namers.