Help appreciated determining if this is an original or a copy

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Without seeing it in hand, it is hard to tell. But the Hunt auction says there were 777 copies made, so the fact that there is only one original and 777 copies out there put the odds heavily in the corner that this is one of those 777.

Thanks for the response.

The listing does indicate that they were numbered out of 777. The picture in the auction is vague but it seems like it is numbered on the front under the Indians available pitchers, and that is not the case on my copy so hoping that is not the case.

What would I be looking for as signs it is either real or copied?

[mcgwirecom]

Wouldn't there usually be an MLB hologram numbered sticker on an authentic lineup card?

[packs]

If there are no indentations from pen writing on the line up card then it is a copy.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

Wouldn't there usually be an MLB hologram numbered sticker on an authentic lineup card?

Not sure they were as careful to have holograms on things back then though don't know.

Originally Posted by packs

If there are no indentations from pen writing on the line up card then it is a copy.

It's really hard to tell through the glass. The writing seems to have been with a fairly soft tipped marker, so not sure how much indentation there would be, and through the glass I can't tell.

If anyone has any other thoughts please let me know. Thanks!

[Mr. Zipper]

There is no way to tell through a scan. You need to take it out of the frame and determine if the ink is "on top" of the card, or part of the card. Given all the writing and ink dots all over the card, it should be really easy to tell in-hand if it is live ink or printed.

[drcy]

I would assume, without a dot matrix pattern (which a copy might have-- look under close magnification), the 'handwriting' ink would be solid throughout in a copy, while in real handwriting will change in ink density/tone throughout.

[Topnotchsy]

Hey all,

Thanks for the responses.

To this point I have been unable to determine if it is a copy or an original through the glass.

My question now is: I have 2 options. I can try to get a refund from the person I bought it from, or I can try and open it and make a better determination but then if it is a copy I will have a much harder time returning it since it will not be in the same condition I purchased it in.

Any advice?

Thanks!