Need help for pricing and authentificated a KSA 52 topps mantle

[g_vezina_c55]

interresting the info that you seen fake in a ksa holder. any thread on this subject?

here is a scan of the back

[irv]

KSA hasn't got the best reputation, especially when it comes to baseball cards.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ksa+g...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Personally, with me, and if I was in the market for one, I would likely avoid this one until I could have it verified by another TPG (PSA or SGC) or by someone who knows their stuff.

Out of curiosity, and only if you want to disclose it, what are they asking for this one?

There is some great info out there about spotting Mantle fakes and here are a few to help get you started.
Good luck.
http://bbcemporium.com/1952-topps-mi...terfeit-guide/
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=133602
https://sportscardinfo.wordpress.com...ey-mantle-311/

[g_vezina_c55]

not a problem the asking price is 11 500 cdn so approximattly 8500 usd
thanks for all these link but i think i will pass on it. it is bad because the card is at only 2 hours from me so no custom fee like when i buy from usa.

i have 11 000 - 12 000 cdn to afford one low grade right now.

[irv]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

not a problem the asking price is 11 500 cdn so approximattly 8500 usd
thanks for all these link but i think i will pass on it. it is bad because the card is at only 2 hours from me so no custom fee like when i buy from usa.

i have 11 000 - 12 000 cdn to afford one low grade right now.

I understand the lure/excitement when one can eliminate the shipping costs, duty and the like, but, again, personally, I would want that one re-verified by someone knowledgeable before I dropped that kind of money on it.

I think, based on what I have seen, that is the ballpark, price wise, for that card up here in Canada so it actually isn't out in left field as far as pricing goes but I would, if the seller will oblige, have him send it to PSA or SGC just to make sure first.

If you really want it, tell him if he does that, and it comes back good, then you'll take it. I would assume the seller would eat the shipping/grading costs if you tell him you will pay his asking.

Good luck, but be sure to search thoroughly first.

[g_vezina_c55]

yeah i will pass on it.
the store said to me he didn t send it to grade because the grading fee is 1000$ for psa...
its a big reputable store in buisiness since 30 years at least. But i think he will need eventually to send it to psa.

[irv]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

yeah i will pass on it.
the store said to me he didn t send it to grade because the grading fee is 1000$ for psa...
its a big reputable store in buisiness since 30 years at least. But i think he will need eventually to send it to psa.

Imo, that card will not be valued at $10,000+ U.S. so his $1000 info is a bit offside.

I have never submitted any cards to any grader, but if I were to send that one in, I would put it's value at under $4,999,00, which, I think they might agree with, and likely only charge $250 U.S.
https://www.psacard.com/fees/
http://www.sgccard.com/GradingFees.aspx

[Bestdj777]

For what it's worth, nothing about the card screams fake to me. I have seen some terrible fakes in KSA holders though--ones that likely weren't put their by KSA given the grade assigned, but may have been later inserted. The only deal I remember ever backing out of was for a 52 Mantle graded bubble KSA as I just didn't feel comfortable and didn't want to eat the cross over fee if I was wrong.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

yeah i will pass on it.
the store said to me he didn t send it to grade because the grading fee is 1000$ for psa...
its a big reputable store in buisiness since 30 years at least. But i think he will need eventually to send it to psa.

can always pay by credit card and have them guarantee it will pass as authentic at least with PSA..

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

can always pay by credit card and have them guarantee it will pass as authentic at least with PSA..

Yea, but then you are out a substantial amount of money in grading fees and shipment costs if it comes back fake.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

interresting the info that you seen fake in a ksa holder. any thread on this subject?

here is a scan of the back

That back is correct for type II shown. It looks ok, I just would not drop that coin on a KSA. If it is ok, but gets an auth vs. a 1, there's still a lot to lose.

Here is the thread from the last one I remember-
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=Ksa+mante

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by JustinD

That back is correct for type II shown. It looks ok, I just would not drop that coin on a KSA. If it is ok, but gets an auth vs. a 1, there's still a lot to lose.

Here is the thread from the last one I remember-
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=Ksa+mante

Not really..Auth and 1 are the same to many, many Auths go for more than 1s

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Not really..Auth and 1 are the same to many, many Auths go for more than 1s

Based on eye-appeal, this would not fall into that.

[MW1]

Card is real. It actually looks pretty nice to me for a "1."

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Based on eye-appeal, this would not fall into that.

Disagree, its entirely possible if this card was in an Authentic Holder he could get the same price as some 1s. Some people buy the card and not the holder. Some Excellent Authentics can go for more than a 1...but just to go for a price of a 1 or a bit more isnt a big stretch as centering is decent

[Peter_Spaeth]

Nelson, seems like you have not posted in years, good to see you back.

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nelson, seems like you have not posted in years, good to see you back.

Thought the same thing, where you been ?

[soxinseven]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nelson, seems like you have not posted in years, good to see you back.

Great to see you back also Nelson!! Hope to see you at the Shriners show again someday...