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Old 05-25-2017, 12:42 PM
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How about a fancy description of this life-altering card? (What is it? I don't collect 19th C.)
And this is a big deal to me. This card has been #1 on my want list for nearly a decade. I actually have lists, goals and all that outlined on my computer and it was always at the top, black in color as I didn’t have one. I believe this is where our hobby started, I believe this card was issued in 1869 and I believe I will never sell it. It is nowhere near the most valuable card I own but it is the center of my collection and joins my w601 Detroit, 14 Matty and 796 Cobb/Wagner and my favorite cards.

There are 26 of these graded, most look pretty rough and I couldn’t afford a nice one so this was perfect…it also came in 5 spots below my max bid making the whole thing better. It’s advertised as the rarer CdV smaller version which is untrue as the larger trade card has fewer examples, especially those in black ink opposed to red. I found 20 different examples and their images online and these are the numbers:

7 of the larger, trade card variation and all 7 have the p/s ad back.
1 of the larger cards is black ink
6 of the larger cards is in red ink

13 of the smaller, cdv variation with 5 different variations of these
4 w/ the Chadwick’s back like mine
2 w/ a p/s back similar to the chadwicks using text and not pictures
4 w/o any advertising and shows the lineup on the back; 2 of these have text on the front along a side panel while the other two have the text along the bottom panel
1 w/ Red Stockings etc. on the back and no ads
2 where I couldn’t see the back

I wonder what the September 13, 1869 date written on both sides is for though. A quick internet search shows the team was traveling from the end of the season on the eastern side of the country (NY specifically) to the start of the their California tour and first game in Missouri. on the 15th of that month.

But this is in no way a Peck & Snyder card, it has nothing to do with the sporting goods store. This card advertises Chadwick’s reference book produced in 1869. There are several theories out there but this is the first BB card IMO. This concludes a HUGE Spring for me, biggest acquisition period I have ever had including the Betz, a CJ Cobb, a pile of 796s plus some other goodies totaling 19 cards.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:01 PM
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CONGRATS Steve!!!! I know how long you have been after that one! I am very happy to see that you finally got it.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:11 PM
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Isn't that considered the first baseball card ever? Or no? Sorry, not my genre....
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:36 PM
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.............. and another GREAT trade .............. this time with one of my oldest (collecting wise, not sure age wise ) T206 friends, Doug D. ....

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................. and a Sov.150 portrait to boot

Fun, fun, Scott
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Old 05-25-2017, 04:33 PM
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.............. and another GREAT trade .............. this time with one of my oldest (collecting wise, not sure age wise ) T206 friends, Doug D. ....

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................. and a Sov.150 portrait to boot

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Nice!
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Old 05-25-2017, 05:40 PM
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I've been posting new Helmar cards lately but this is a original Helmar cigarette box from a century ago, still with hinge attached, and cheap on ebay. Great storage for vintage tobacco cards or Helmar t206 art cards....

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What is a 796? I am unfamiliar with that term.

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Old 05-26-2017, 08:23 AM
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What is a 796? I am unfamiliar with that term.

Tom C
I think it is the PC796 postcards?
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What is a 796? I am unfamiliar with that term.

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1910 Sepia 796 PCs...
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And this is a big deal to me. This card has been #1 on my want list for nearly a decade. I actually have lists, goals and all that outlined on my computer and it was always at the top, black in color as I didn’t have one.
Congrats Steven!!!
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And this is a big deal to me. This card has been #1 on my want list for nearly a decade.
Sick card. I checked out the auction you purchased it from. I think you got it for a steal! Congrats!!
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T206 Tinker, bat off, blank back.

Only two more backs to go before I have completed the back run. Whose got my Sweet Caporal 350, fact 25??

Thanks to all board members who helped me along the way.
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Old 05-30-2017, 03:58 PM
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Rhotchkiss check out the Ultimate trade up thread I believe Eyecollect vintage still has the Killian 350/25 for sale.

I just got this last week after taking a chance on a new ebay seller:
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T206 Tinker, bat off, blank back.

Only two more backs to go before I have completed the back run. Whose got my Sweet Caporal 350, fact 25??

Thanks to all board members who helped me along the way.
Wow Ryan, that's quite the back run you're completing.
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Sick card. I checked out the auction you purchased it from. I think you got it for a steal! Congrats!!
Thanks and I would have to agree that I was happy with the price. It was the lowest sale I could find...5 notches below my max and I have been the underbidder on 3 other over the 6 years or so.

Brad - WHAT AN AMAZING PIECE! That thing is a beauty, was that a private deal? If you ever get bored of that PLEASE let me know.

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