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Old 05-25-2017, 12:29 PM
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This has been #1 on my wantlist for nearly a decade...I cannot believe its in my hands. My life is complete...
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This has been #1 on my wantlist for nearly a decade...I cannot believe its in my hands. My life is complete...
How about a fancy description of this life-altering card? (What is it? I don't collect 19th C.)
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Old 05-25-2017, 12:42 PM
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How about a fancy description of this life-altering card? (What is it? I don't collect 19th C.)
And this is a big deal to me. This card has been #1 on my want list for nearly a decade. I actually have lists, goals and all that outlined on my computer and it was always at the top, black in color as I didn’t have one. I believe this is where our hobby started, I believe this card was issued in 1869 and I believe I will never sell it. It is nowhere near the most valuable card I own but it is the center of my collection and joins my w601 Detroit, 14 Matty and 796 Cobb/Wagner and my favorite cards.

There are 26 of these graded, most look pretty rough and I couldn’t afford a nice one so this was perfect…it also came in 5 spots below my max bid making the whole thing better. It’s advertised as the rarer CdV smaller version which is untrue as the larger trade card has fewer examples, especially those in black ink opposed to red. I found 20 different examples and their images online and these are the numbers:

7 of the larger, trade card variation and all 7 have the p/s ad back.
1 of the larger cards is black ink
6 of the larger cards is in red ink

13 of the smaller, cdv variation with 5 different variations of these
4 w/ the Chadwick’s back like mine
2 w/ a p/s back similar to the chadwicks using text and not pictures
4 w/o any advertising and shows the lineup on the back; 2 of these have text on the front along a side panel while the other two have the text along the bottom panel
1 w/ Red Stockings etc. on the back and no ads
2 where I couldn’t see the back

I wonder what the September 13, 1869 date written on both sides is for though. A quick internet search shows the team was traveling from the end of the season on the eastern side of the country (NY specifically) to the start of the their California tour and first game in Missouri. on the 15th of that month.

But this is in no way a Peck & Snyder card, it has nothing to do with the sporting goods store. This card advertises Chadwick’s reference book produced in 1869. There are several theories out there but this is the first BB card IMO. This concludes a HUGE Spring for me, biggest acquisition period I have ever had including the Betz, a CJ Cobb, a pile of 796s plus some other goodies totaling 19 cards.
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CONGRATS Steve!!!! I know how long you have been after that one! I am very happy to see that you finally got it.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:11 PM
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Isn't that considered the first baseball card ever? Or no? Sorry, not my genre....
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.............. and another GREAT trade .............. this time with one of my oldest (collecting wise, not sure age wise ) T206 friends, Doug D. ....

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................. and a Sov.150 portrait to boot

Fun, fun, Scott
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.............. and another GREAT trade .............. this time with one of my oldest (collecting wise, not sure age wise ) T206 friends, Doug D. ....

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And this is a big deal to me. This card has been #1 on my want list for nearly a decade. I actually have lists, goals and all that outlined on my computer and it was always at the top, black in color as I didn’t have one.
Congrats Steven!!!
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And this is a big deal to me. This card has been #1 on my want list for nearly a decade.
Sick card. I checked out the auction you purchased it from. I think you got it for a steal! Congrats!!
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T206 Tinker, bat off, blank back.

Only two more backs to go before I have completed the back run. Whose got my Sweet Caporal 350, fact 25??

Thanks to all board members who helped me along the way.
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Rhotchkiss check out the Ultimate trade up thread I believe Eyecollect vintage still has the Killian 350/25 for sale.

I just got this last week after taking a chance on a new ebay seller:
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T206 Tinker, bat off, blank back.

Only two more backs to go before I have completed the back run. Whose got my Sweet Caporal 350, fact 25??

Thanks to all board members who helped me along the way.
Wow Ryan, that's quite the back run you're completing.
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Sick card. I checked out the auction you purchased it from. I think you got it for a steal! Congrats!!
Thanks and I would have to agree that I was happy with the price. It was the lowest sale I could find...5 notches below my max and I have been the underbidder on 3 other over the 6 years or so.

Brad - WHAT AN AMAZING PIECE! That thing is a beauty, was that a private deal? If you ever get bored of that PLEASE let me know.

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This has been #1 on my wantlist for nearly a decade...I cannot believe its in my hands. My life is complete...
Awesome! Congrats man!

Love the Chief Meyers piece.

Glenn love the caramels "Elam Vanglider" what a cool name!

Love the Oxford Hornsby Brian!

Great eye candy on this page for me! Forgot about that Hugh Jennings up at top of page too! nice stuff.
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Awesome! Congrats man!

Love the Chief Meyers piece.

Glenn love the caramels "Elam Vanglider" what a cool name!

Love the Oxford Hornsby Brian!

Great eye candy on this page for me! Forgot about that Hugh Jennings up at top of page too! nice stuff.
Thank you, Erick.
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Love that Hornsby; he doesn't get enough love in the hobby.

The mail cannot come fast enough.

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Love that Hornsby; he doesn't get enough love in the hobby.

The mail cannot come fast enough.

Oh wow! Congrats!!!
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Love that Hornsby; he doesn't get enough love in the hobby.

The mail cannot come fast enough.

Thank you, Matt. Just resetting my jaw after seeing your Wagner.
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Nice pickup guys! Tip Top Wagner a great card to own along with the mascot from the same series. The Peck and Snyder Red Stocking card is another big card worthy of a HOF collection Steven. If you ever get tired of the PC796 (postcard) shaking hands card then send it my way, please!

Congrats to all as May was a very good month for many folks.
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Nice pickup guys! Tip Top Wagner a great card to own along with the mascot from the same series.
Jay, I hold you directly responsible for this purchase, LOL; never heard of the mascot card until your post— looked it up and dug it so much had to grab one. Thanks for putting me onto it.

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Love that Hornsby; he doesn't get enough love in the hobby.

The mail cannot come fast enough.

Congrats on that Wagner Matt!! Great addition to an already great collection.
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Great Wagner Matt!!
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Thx, fellas. It is thanks to a fellow board member who took me under his wing when I joined years ago. Then again, as grateful as I am for that gentleman's time and friendship and expertise, the flipside is how much loot has been spent on cards thanks to him, LOL!
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Love the Wagner!
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WOW! That IS an acquisition to write about! Congratulations!
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Jlange, there are others pictured with that article also used by Helmar, including--at auction this week--that Foxx/Mack photo. The Babe Herman was auctioned on cabinet last week....But article very vague on sourcing and why showing these now, and don't know if Helmar owner bought rights to them or he commissioned, or what.... I bought the Averill/Harder/Johnson card last weej and Grover Cleveland Alexander, not pictured, recently from them, probably same source.
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