Brent Huigens - PWCC. Do you really want to keep this game up? I'm ready boss.

[aloondilana]

Speaking of our beloved card, hmmm.... Check out the POP Report guys
The card has been removed.
I find it very hard to believe the winner of the card from PWCC
just sent it into PSA and asked to remove the card from the holder.
So who really won this card?
That's the question of the day.

Seems to me I should be reimbursed the commission I paid on this.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

Speaking of our beloved card, hmmm.... Check out the POP Report guys
The card has been removed.
I find it very hard to believe the winner of the card from PWCC
just sent it into PSA and asked to remove the card from the holder.
So who really won this card?
That's the question of the day.

Seems to me I should be reimbursed the commission I paid on this.

This deserves its own thread John. Seriously. Start one. That is INSANE. Whoever bought that card wanted it to disappear, and PSA was more than happy to oblige. This is bigger news than the original discovery in my opinion.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by orly57

This deserves its own thread John. Seriously. Start one. That is INSANE. Whoever bought that card wanted it to disappear, and PSA was more than happy to oblige. This is bigger news than the original discovery in my opinion.

And the beat goes on.
Yeah the beat goes on.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by orly57

This deserves its own thread John. Seriously. Start one. That is INSANE. Whoever bought that card wanted it to disappear, and PSA was more than happy to oblige. This is bigger news than the original discovery in my opinion.

+1

[rsn1661]

Zima, the clear one, not the gold one.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by rsn1661

Zima, the clear one, not the gold one.

I think the gold one was Tequiza. Good times!

[Beastmode]

Wow. Courtney's panties are certainly in a bunch. After multiple "time-outs" in the corner of his mom's house, he's still fired up. The tone of his post screams "I'm a xxcking nut job".

Brent needs a restraining order against this mental head case. He's lost it.

[irv]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

Speaking of our beloved card, hmmm.... Check out the POP Report guys
The card has been removed.
I find it very hard to believe the winner of the card from PWCC
just sent it into PSA and asked to remove the card from the holder.
So who really won this card?
That's the question of the day.

Seems to me I should be reimbursed the commission I paid on this.

As the plot thickens!! Anyone have any idea/theories what is going on here?

Like what was said above, it is very hard to believe the winner would send this in to have the card removed,,,,,,,,,well, a real winner anyways.

[orly57]

The only reason anyone would drop over 50k for that hideous card IS THE SLAB!!! Then it disappears from the psa population. That is the cherry on top, and a fantastic coverup to this whole sordid mess.

[irv]

Originally Posted by orly57

The only reason anyone would drop over 50k for that hideous card IS THE SLAB!!! Then it disappears from the psa population. That is the cherry on top, and a fantastic cover up to this whole sordid mess.

I alluded to that fact that PWCC wasn't the only one involved with that Dimaggio card. Everyone questioned the grade and wondered how it got such a high one?!?!?

I think, right about now, there is more than one party who wishes all this would just disappear.

[Bigshot69]

The only clear winner here is Bartles and James.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by Bigshot69

The only clear winner here is Bartles and James.

And the makers of Zima!

[Brent Huigens]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

Speaking of our beloved card, hmmm.... Check out the POP Report guys
The card has been removed.
I find it very hard to believe the winner of the card from PWCC
just sent it into PSA and asked to remove the card from the holder.
So who really won this card?
That's the question of the day.

Seems to me I should be reimbursed the commission I paid on this.

After long deliberation with PWCC, PSA decided to remove the card from the registry due to concerns raised by the hobby about the restoration. PWCC has contacted the buyer and offered to accept a return for a full refund. The card is still in the possession of the buyer, and because it is his property at the moment, it is up to him whether he wants to return the card.

John, please feel free to reach out to Brent directly should you have questions about how to handle your consignment fees from this sale.

Betsy Huigens
PWCC Auctions, LLC

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

After long deliberation with PWCC, PSA decided to remove the card from the registry due to concerns raised by the hobby about the restoration. PWCC has contacted the buyer and offered to accept a return for a full refund. The card is still in the possession of the buyer, and because it is his property at the moment, it is up to him whether he wants to return the card.

John, please feel free to reach out to Brent directly should you have questions about how to handle your consignment fees from this sale.

Betsy Huigens
PWCC Auctions, LLC

I find it interesting that you didn't make a statement regarding it until now, not that you needed to, but why wouldn't you, to let everyone know it has been resolved in good faith.

What would be interesting to hear you say is, yes we did modify the card, we did sell it and are sorry, and we will not be doing this again in the future, it was a mistake.

But then, if you did that, you wouldn't be able to do it again and get caught right?

Additionally, I would question how it was removed. PSA now has a hard in a holder, that exists, that is real, but is not in the registry and there is an underlying problem with the card, that no one can tell unless they know the cert and call them up to inquire?

This seems like rush to handle. If I am not mistaken, this is far from PSA's policy on how card disputes are handled. Per the other Ebay guy who had the PSA 6 Cobb, they require the card in hand to examine it. This to me means, there is a lot of pressure to go outside of normal policy to clean this up.

[mark evans]

Cortney (who I don't know) should make his point or points clearly and concisely, not with obfuscation and innuendo. Otherwise, he's just wasting everyone's time.

If the dispute pertains to the DiMaggio card, it appears that this thread may finally be getting to the meat of the coconut.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

After long deliberation with PWCC, PSA decided to remove the card from the registry due to concerns raised by the hobby about the restoration. PWCC has contacted the buyer and offered to accept a return for a full refund. The card is still in the possession of the buyer, and because it is his property at the moment, it is up to him whether he wants to return the card.

John, please feel free to reach out to Brent directly should you have questions about how to handle your consignment fees from this sale.

Betsy Huigens
PWCC Auctions, LLC

I thought PSA returned the card to PWCC during the auction after it was sent in for expedited review and despite having been informed about the problem, said it stood by the grade. Or so you said before.

"We did indeed engage PSA to verify the accuracy of their assessment on this 1936 WWG DiMaggio. As we strongly believed, the card is graded accurately and this was re-confirmed by PSA prior the auction sale."

The stories are not consistent IMO.

[Brent Huigens]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought PSA returned the card to PWCC during the auction after it was sent in for expedited review and despite having been informed about the problem, said it stood by the grade. Or so you said before.

"We did indeed engage PSA to verify the accuracy of their assessment on this 1936 WWG DiMaggio. As we strongly believed, the card is graded accurately and this was re-confirmed by PSA prior the auction sale."

The stories are not consistent IMO.

Peter, yes indeed they did. Just last week they decided to remove the item from the registry. It appears that they reconsidered the grade post sale. In light of this, the buyer has been given the opportunity to return the card.

Betsy

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

Peter, yes indeed they did. Just last week they decided to remove the item from the registry. It appears that they reconsidered the grade post sale. In light of this, the buyer has been given the opportunity to return the card.

Betsy

They removed the card without it in hand? That makes no sense to me. And why did this even come up again as an issue, if they vetted the card during the auction? And why were they deliberating with you, as opposed to internally? If I were PSA I wouldn't care what you thought frankly, and besides they already knew your opinion.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

They removed the card without it in hand? That makes no sense to me. And why did this even come up again as an issue, if they vetted the card during the auction? And why were they deliberating with you, as opposed to internally? If I were PSA I wouldn't care what you thought frankly, and besides they already knew your opinion.

I will attest to the fact that PSA requires the item back, so they can prosecute and press charges, when they know who is responsible. This is clearly against their policies when dealing with others.

I concur, this is making zero sense at all.

[irv]

LOL. This just gets better by the minute!

[TobaccoKing4]

[CrackaJackKid]

PWCC...you guys are doing more harm than help to the hobby. All the shenanigans when this is just a hobby to so many people. So much manipulation,fraud and decievement I really hope in 10 years your a thing of the past. But people will say, "oh but PWCC gets some of the nicest looking cards from consignors, probably cause you guys have every card doctor/soaker on speed dial. I have not nor will I ever purchase a card from PWCC. I'm done...WHEW!!!..I feel better.

[ZiggerZagger]

Well now I'm eagerly glued to the PSA POP Report on the T206 Wagner -- it'll probably only be a matter of hours before the butchered McNall-Gretzky Wagner is finally pulled!!

It's a brave new world!

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

Peter, yes indeed they did. Just last week they decided to remove the item from the registry. It appears that they reconsidered the grade post sale. In light of this, the buyer has been given the opportunity to return the card.

Betsy

[irv]

Originally Posted by ziggerzagger

well now i'm eagerly glued to the psa pop report on the t206 wagner -- it'll probably only be a matter of hours before the butchered mcnall-gretzky wagner is finally pulled!!

it's a brave new world! :d:d:d

lmao! :d

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by ZiggerZagger

Well now I'm eagerly glued to the PSA POP Report on the T206 Wagner -- it'll probably only be a matter of hours before the butchered McNall-Gretzky Wagner is finally pulled!!

It's a brave new world!

Good point, and that card unlike the WWG DiMaggio actually has an admission from the culprit that it was indeed hand cut from a sheet.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Good point, and that card unlike the WWG DiMaggio actually has an admission from the culprit that it was indeed hand cut from a sheet.

Brent who bought the card in a 4 acknowledged the work was done to turn it into a 7.

[WWG]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

Speaking of our beloved card, hmmm.... Check out the POP Report guys
The card has been removed.
I find it very hard to believe the winner of the card from PWCC
just sent it into PSA and asked to remove the card from the holder.
So who really won this card?
That's the question of the day.

Seems to me I should be reimbursed the commission I paid on this.

So PSA removes themselves from this mess by deleting the card from their Pop report and cert. verification but still lists the card in their past auction sales. So now what is the true value of this card in PSA 7/SGC 7?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I dunno but I wish I had bought the Dean in PSA6 in 2010