Utter Frustration:

packs · #1 03-31-2017, 08:19 AM

If this was Whit's ONLY card I could see going above board on it just to have it but knowing that's not the case I'd let the guy keep it. He'll never sell it for that and you can just hope he puts it up for auction.

Section103 · #2 03-31-2017, 09:57 AM

Been there. As a player collector, one of the cards on my list is a 55 Bowman Sample card. The one with Willie -freaking- Mays on it too.

mark evans · #3 03-31-2017, 10:10 AM

I think many collectors of Jewish ballplayers ran into this dilemma with regard to the unique Baltimore News card of Guy Zinn. But the stakes were a bit higher (and light years beyond my reach) -- $125k.

What little I know of negotiating (took a course by an expert Herb Cohen), it is likely a mistake to make a 'take it or leave it' offer. No need to run the risk of offending the seller.

By the way, I went to college with a fellow named Whitlow Wyatt.

clydepepper · #4 03-31-2017, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mark evans

I think many collectors of Jewish ballplayers ran into this dilemma with regard to the unique Baltimore News card of Guy Zinn. But the stakes were a bit higher (and light years beyond my reach) -- $125k.

What little I know of negotiating (took a course by an expert Herb Cohen), it is likely a mistake to make a 'take it or leave it' offer. No need to run the risk of offending the seller.

By the way, I went to college with a fellow named Whitlow Wyatt.

...Probably Jr., his son, who passed away in 2001...just two years after his father. I do not recall ever meeting him.

mark evans · #5 03-31-2017, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

...Probably Jr., his son, who passed away in 2001...just two years after his father. I do not recall ever meeting him.

I have my doubts. The Whitlow Wyatt I knew attended Washington and Lee U. from 1966-70. The ballplayer's son (per internet) was born in 1940 so likely another fellow.

By the way, I had another recollection from my course on negotiations. While the only certain method of acquiring the card is offering the asking price, one rule of thumb is to offer around 15% less than you are prepared to pay.

clydepepper · #6 03-31-2017, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mark evans

I have my doubts. The Whitlow Wyatt I knew attended Washington and Lee U. from 1966-70. The ballplayer's son (per internet) was born in 1940 so likely another fellow.

Well, it is not a very common name and Wyatt, Jr. would have been 26-30 years old when he was in college - which is late- not right out of high school, but, it's possible.

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Originally Posted by mark evans

By the way, I had another recollection from my course on negotiations. While the only certain method of acquiring the card is offering the asking price, one rule of thumb is to offer around 15% less than you are prepared to pay.

I wanted to thank everyone who posted on this thread for their input about this card and my dilemma with it. I am currently weighing my options.

-Raymond

clydepepper · #7 04-01-2017, 12:24 AM

Mark-

Your comments concerning having known a Whitlow Wyatt, have sent me on my own research trip and through that, a better idea.

John Whitlow Wyatt, the MLB pitcher, was married to my grandmother's first cousin...but I have always claimed him as a 'full' cousin and always will.

I had already discovered that his son, John Whitlow Wyatt, Jr, had passed away in 1976.

My latest google search found that John Whitlow Wyatt III, born in 1970, had also already passed away...in 2012.

However, he is survived by his wife of seventeen years and 3 children, the oldest of which, John Whitlow (Jack) Wyatt IV, would be 17-18 years old now.

I will travel to their hometown, introduce myself, explain my connection and offer my Whitlow Wyatt collection to his great-grandson.

Not being able to 'take it with me', I can think of no better person to give it to.

Cool, huh?

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