Utter Frustration:

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by mark evans

I think many collectors of Jewish ballplayers ran into this dilemma with regard to the unique Baltimore News card of Guy Zinn. But the stakes were a bit higher (and light years beyond my reach) -- $125k.

What little I know of negotiating (took a course by an expert Herb Cohen), it is likely a mistake to make a 'take it or leave it' offer. No need to run the risk of offending the seller.

By the way, I went to college with a fellow named Whitlow Wyatt.

...Probably Jr., his son, who passed away in 2001...just two years after his father. I do not recall ever meeting him.

[mark evans]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

...Probably Jr., his son, who passed away in 2001...just two years after his father. I do not recall ever meeting him.

I have my doubts. The Whitlow Wyatt I knew attended Washington and Lee U. from 1966-70. The ballplayer's son (per internet) was born in 1940 so likely another fellow.

By the way, I had another recollection from my course on negotiations. While the only certain method of acquiring the card is offering the asking price, one rule of thumb is to offer around 15% less than you are prepared to pay.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by mark evans

I have my doubts. The Whitlow Wyatt I knew attended Washington and Lee U. from 1966-70. The ballplayer's son (per internet) was born in 1940 so likely another fellow.

Well, it is not a very common name and Wyatt, Jr. would have been 26-30 years old when he was in college - which is late- not right out of high school, but, it's possible.

Originally Posted by mark evans

By the way, I had another recollection from my course on negotiations. While the only certain method of acquiring the card is offering the asking price, one rule of thumb is to offer around 15% less than you are prepared to pay.

I wanted to thank everyone who posted on this thread for their input about this card and my dilemma with it. I am currently weighing my options.

-Raymond

[clydepepper]

Mark-

Your comments concerning having known a Whitlow Wyatt, have sent me on my own research trip and through that, a better idea.

John Whitlow Wyatt, the MLB pitcher, was married to my grandmother's first cousin...but I have always claimed him as a 'full' cousin and always will.

I had already discovered that his son, John Whitlow Wyatt, Jr, had passed away in 1976.

My latest google search found that John Whitlow Wyatt III, born in 1970, had also already passed away...in 2012.

However, he is survived by his wife of seventeen years and 3 children, the oldest of which, John Whitlow (Jack) Wyatt IV, would be 17-18 years old now.

I will travel to their hometown, introduce myself, explain my connection and offer my Whitlow Wyatt collection to his great-grandson.

Not being able to 'take it with me', I can think of no better person to give it to.

Cool, huh?

[whiteymet]

Raymond:

I am an advanced Phillies collector and I can tell you Felins are really hard to find. I believe all the cards came from one find at a printer in Wisconsin in the 70's.

There is an ad in the Phillies 1955 program for them, but I do not believe they were ever issued. All numbers are not even known.

With all that said, in my 50 plus years collecting Phillies stuff ( yeah I'm OLD) I have managed to come up with only ONE Felins. Guess who? Yep, Whit Wyatt.

It is ungraded in nice shape. Certainly nicer than the one on ebay. While I am not interested in selling it, I would agree to trade it to you for another Felins in the same or better condition to help you out. If you can find another LMK. Perhaps another collector here on Net54 has one they would sell you for a fair price. PM me your email address and I can send you a scan.

Fred

[oldjudge]

Classy move Fred! We should all go out and find one of these cards for Raymond so he can do the trade.

[mattjc1983]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Mark-



Your comments concerning having known a Whitlow Wyatt, have sent me on my own research trip and through that, a better idea.



John Whitlow Wyatt, the MLB pitcher, was married to my grandmother's first cousin...but I have always claimed him as a 'full' cousin and always will.



I had already discovered that his son, John Whitlow Wyatt, Jr, had passed away in 1976.



My latest google search found that John Whitlow Wyatt III, born in 1970, had also already passed away...in 2012.



However, he is survived by his wife of seventeen years and 3 children, the oldest of which, John Whitlow (Jack) Wyatt IV, would be 17-18 years old now.



I will travel to their hometown, introduce myself, explain my connection and offer my Whitlow Wyatt collection to his great-grandson.



Not being able to 'take it with me', I can think of no better person to give it to.



Cool, huh?

Awesome! This kind of story makes this the great hobby this is.


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[mark evans]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Mark-

Your comments concerning having known a Whitlow Wyatt, have sent me on my own research trip and through that, a better idea.

John Whitlow Wyatt, the MLB pitcher, was married to my grandmother's first cousin...but I have always claimed him as a 'full' cousin and always will.

I had already discovered that his son, John Whitlow Wyatt, Jr, had passed away in 1976.

My latest google search found that John Whitlow Wyatt III, born in 1970, had also already passed away...in 2012.

However, he is survived by his wife of seventeen years and 3 children, the oldest of which, John Whitlow (Jack) Wyatt IV, would be 17-18 years old now.

I will travel to their hometown, introduce myself, explain my connection and offer my Whitlow Wyatt collection to his great-grandson.

Not being able to 'take it with me', I can think of no better person to give it to.

Cool, huh?

Yeah, but some confusion. If reading correctly, at one point you state son died in 2001; and at another point in 1976.

As to the fellow I knew, a contact with W&L's alumni office may shed light as to his current residence.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by mark evans

Yeah, but some confusion. If reading correctly, at one point you state son died in 2001; and at another point in 1976.

As to the fellow I knew, a contact with W&L's alumni office may shed light as to his current residence.

Oops. He passed in 2001; his father two years earlier and his mother in 1976.