Tebow circus

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Anyone who has played Baseball with loved doing so, always wants more.

To have an opportunity to compete at the highest level, warranted or not, is a dream anyone who is honest with themselves would love to experience in real life.

I have not played in more than 15 years, and, even though the last few games proved without a doubt that I could no longer be competitive, it crushed me to have that connection to my past come to an end.

There remains an urge in me, to jump (nope, can't even do that) onto the field at whatever game (at whatever talent level) I attend and have that opportunity one last time.


And this is from someone who had as definite closure to that part of my life as there could be.

The desire, however, remains...and I do not criticize ANYONE for pursuing the same.

Tim Tebow deserves the opportunity- in doing so with his normal enthusiasm and conviction, he does nothing but honor the game and its connection to all of us who once had it as a very important part of our physical existence.

I wish him all the best!

While I can appreciate this sentiment, it is precisely the reason this whole thing would bug me if it was my team that was doing this. Tebow is chasing that elusive dream, giving it one last shot as expressed in your post. But by doing that he is negatively impacting someone who has a much more reasonable chance of making it who has the same passion.

[packs]

He is not even chasing a dream though. His dream was to play in the NFL. He stopped playing baseball as a junior in high school. I think that is another thing that distances his experience from Michael Jordan's. Jordan didn't opt for baseball because he failed as an NBA player and he didn't need baseball to prolong what he thought would be a professional sports career.

[clydepepper]

How much of the criticism leveled at Tim Tebow is because he is considered TOO nice a guy?

Well, I think we could use more folks like him in positions that, justifiable or not, are looked on as roll-models by our children.

Haters, exit stage left please.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by packs

He is not even chasing a dream though. His dream was to play in the NFL. He stopped playing baseball as a junior in high school. I think that is another thing that distances his experience from Michael Jordan's. Jordan didn't opt for baseball because he failed as an NBA player and he didn't need baseball to prolong what he thought would be a professional sports career.

You think he failed at football? The guy beat the Steelers in the playoffs. He was forced out of football because of the media.

What point are you trying to make? If you don't succeed at one thing, accept defeat and quit altogether?

You're a Tebow-hater. Plain and simple. My apologies for posting here though, since this thread is a safe space, meant strictly for people who dislike Tebow.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

You think he failed at football? The guy beat the Steelers in the playoffs. He was forced out of football because of the media.

LOL, yeah 'cause Belichek is such a slave to what the media thinks he should do.

For that matter if he could've helped ANY team they would've signed him. Michael Vick got a second chance after doing heinous things, but somehow you think Tebow was blackballed for being too nice?

If anything the media has prolonged his career AND created this baseball opportunity for him. Without the media hoopla, he wouldn't sell jerseys and therefore would've been useless (more useless) to the Mets. Think of all the QB failures in league history. Did ANY of them get the opportunities this guy has? Did any of them get the coverage he did? Troy Smith and Chris Weinke would have killed to have Tim Tebow's media "problems"

I have no personal feelings about Tebow one way or the other since I don't know him personally. He certainly seems to lead an exemplary life in a time when lots of other athletes leave quite a bit to be desired in their personal conduct. But he was not a viable NFL QB plain and simple.

[packs]

I am in agreement. He is in the position he's in because there is a focus on him. He has not lost out on anything, in my opinion, because of the media. I have no issue with him as a person and he definitely does a lot of good for people. I wouldn't call myself a Tebow hater, just a realist.

[bn2cardz]

As a Christian myself I fail to see how Tebow's faith has anything to do with his career ending. If anything it seems to have helped garner more fans than maybe his on-field play has deserved him. Everyone in my Church seemed to LOVE Tebow so he certainly wasn't being harmed by this media coverage.

Also I just have to look at Kurt Warner and see that the NFL doesn't blackball you for faith or having a "nice" personality.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

As a Christian myself I fail to see how Tebow's faith has anything to do with his career ending. If anything it seems to have helped garner more fans than maybe his on-field play has deserved him. Everyone in my Church seemed to LOVE Tebow so he certainly wasn't being harmed by this media coverage.

Also I just have to look at Kurt Warner and see that the NFL doesn't blackball you for faith or having a "nice" personality.

All the dirt bags in sports who beat their wives, beat kids with branches from trees, abuse dogs, etc., etc., . . . yeah perfectly rational to be outraged over Tebow. What a terrible guy.

[clydepepper]

delete please

I did not realize that I had nothing worthwhile to add until after I had posted some crap not up to standards.


EXCUUUSE MEEEE! lol

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

You think he failed at football? The guy beat the Steelers in the playoffs. He was forced out of football because of the media.

What point are you trying to make? If you don't succeed at one thing, accept defeat and quit altogether?

You're a Tebow-hater. Plain and simple. My apologies for posting here though, since this thread is a safe space, meant strictly for people who dislike Tebow.

Actually he was forced out of football due to lack of passing accuracy and arm strength, along with an unwillingness to entertain the idea of playing another position besides QB (i.e. FB)

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Actually he was forced out of football due to lack of passing accuracy and arm strength, along with an unwillingness to entertain the idea of playing another position besides QB (i.e. FB)

right, i believe Tebow could of played in the NFL if he was willing to play other positions but who cares, the ability to keep playing in the NFL doesnt have anything to do about my opinion that he should be able to play Spring ball...

packs said that playing baseball wasnt his dream, i dont think that matter and i also dont think we really know that or not.

baseball has a knack for letting guys like tebow play in the spring and heck even adam greenberg in the regular Major leagues. I not see lebron james get get a few hand offs in the NFL preseason, or a guy that got injured in his first nfl game get a 'one carry' in an NFL game 7 years later because of good will. I do think Mr. Bolt would get a chance to run a few fly patterns if he wanted too or lets get a high jumper to block some kicks. Maybe it has happened a bit in the NFL but you know what i mean

that is what baseball does. Its not like the floodgates will open for spring training when all you have to do is win a heisman and a few national championships and be considered one of the all time best college qbs to get a chance to play in the minors.

also remember more baseball players go the the pros straight from high school...its not like the college football system...who is to say tebow wouldnt of gotten a chance to play in the minors right out of high school....he just took the long route..but again is 29...still younger than Jordan was and adam greenberg

[packs]

Why do you keep bringing up Adam Greenberg? He was a lifelong professional baseball player, Tebow is not. What do they have in common? I guess if you're saying Greenberg got something he didn't deserve I still think that's wrong. He made the major leagues on his own and he played professionally for 12 seasons.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Why do you keep bringing up Adam Greenberg? He was a lifelong professional baseball player, Tebow is not. What do they have in common? I guess if you're saying Greenberg got something he didn't deserve I still think that's wrong. He made the major leagues on his own and he played professionally for 12 seasons.

So basically Willie Mays should play today since he is a HOF an a professional for over 20 years. To think greenberg playing in a regular season game as good will has nothing to do with Tim Tebow playing i think is incorrect. Greenberg did not belong in the major leagues in 2012 at all. He played zero games in the minor leagues 2012 and played 1 game with the Marlins and he was not a part of their organizaton At least Tebow is in the mets organization. Greenberg was 0-1 with a strikeout.

I think Tebow has more right to play in spring training games today then Greenberg had a right to play in the big leagues in 2012. You may disagree but to each their own and my comparison is fair