Tebow circus

[packs]

You guys seriously don't understand people's frustrations with a guy who won't give it a rest? To me, he gives off the vibe that he feels entitled to be a professional athlete. The fact that he was a failed NFL player seems to be a complete shock to his system. I think people will always be frustrated with nepotism and false opportunities. He's a celebrity who is only playing in these games because he's a celebrity. That rubs people the wrong way in many situations, this being one of the more unusual circumstances where being famous got you something you didn't earn.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

You guys seriously don't understand people's frustrations with a guy who won't give it a rest? To me, he gives off the vibe that he feels entitled to be a professional athlete. The fact that he was a failed NFL player seems to be a complete shock to his system. I think people will always be frustrated with nepotism and false opportunities. He's a celebrity who is only playing in these games because he's a celebrity. That rubs people the wrong way in many situations, this being one of the more unusual circumstances where being famous got you something you didn't earn.

Adam Goldberg got an AB in the major leagues and had no reason to be there at that time Playing in some spring training games isnt a big deal for an actual player in the minor league system.

You think Michael Jordan shouldnt of played spring training games?

[packs]

Adam Greenberg was a professional baseball player who did have a major league at bat, which he earned. He was hit in the head. He has nothing in common with Tebow. His second at bat was an act of good will which, again, is not at all similar or related to Tebow. Michael Jordan should not have been given a roster spot either and he played at a much higher level than Tebow will. I think it helped that Jordan was a successful athlete though in terms of public perception, which is what we're talking about.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Adam Greenberg was a professional baseball player who did have a major league at bat, which he earned. He was hit in the head. He has nothing in common with Tebow. His second at bat was an act of good will which, again, is not at all similar or related to Tebow. Michael Jordan should not have been given a roster spot either and he played at a much higher level than Tebow will. I think it helped that Jordan was a successful athlete though in terms of public perception, which is what we're talking about.

Tebow was also a successful athlete and considered one of the greatest college football players of all time.

Wrong on greenberg..he had a prior plate appearence but not an at bat.. He got one at bat in 2012 and had ZERO games in the minors that year and was not in the Marlin minor league system He ended up getting a total of 30 games in 2013 for independent league for Bridgeport and hit .220 which was the rest of his entire career. You are fine with greenberg playing in a real game in which he wasnt even a part of the marlin organization, but against Tebow for spring training game for which is in an active member of the minor league team?

He did not earn the at bat years after that plate appearance. His second at bat was an act of good will and you are fine with that? So if good will is now a part of it, why cant Tebow and many others get Good will?

I would argue Tebow playing baseball is at least an act of good will (which you seem ok with )and at least he is just playing spring training. Greenberg took a major league regular season at bat away from a major leaguer and he struck out on 3 pitches and out of baseball completely shortly there after. Yeah you are ok with Greenberg playing in a major league game but against Tebow in a spring training game. I dont think thats a consistent point of view. There are a lot of good will/charity cases of players i can name that have just as much of a right to play as adam greenberg.

[packs]

There is a major difference between a guy who earned his way to the majors and had a tragic occurrence that was rectified years later and a guy who washed out of the NFL and is on a minor league team because of his celebrity. They have nothing in common and as I said we are talking about public perception. This thread is about why people don't like Tebow. I think I've laid out some good reasons as to why the public sees him in a negative light.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

There is a major difference between a guy who earned his way to the majors and had a tragic occurrence that was rectified years later and a guy who washed out of the NFL and is on a minor league team because of his celebrity. They have nothing in common and as I said we are talking about public perception. This thread is about why people don't like Tebow. I think I've laid out some good reasons as to why the public sees him in a negative light.

So if you played in the majors and have a tragic occurrence you deserve the chance many years later to play in the major leagues even if at the time of the call up you you are not even good enough to play independent ball and are older (31) than Tebow is now (29)

I think theres a lot in common. There are many that see Tebow in a negative light but there are many that see Tebow in a positive light and want good will which you are ok with. Tebow is very popular in Florida and that is where the spring training games are. I also think Tebow at this point in time is better than Adam Greenberg was in 2012 and at least he is part of the parent clubs organization.

[packs]

You're a Tebow fan. That's totally fine. The premise of this thread was why some people aren't Tebow fans. I am expressing why I think people aren't Tebow fans. I don't think Adam Greenberg plays a role in people's opinion on Tebow.

[Snapolit1]

Lee Mazzilli's son was in the same starting lineup yesterday as Tebow. A fringe minor league moved up for the day to play a spring training game. Is going absolutely nowhere in the bigs. I must have missed all the articles about how Mets promote son of a successful alum to play in highly important split squad game.

[tjenkins]

I here so much negative about him playing baseball. I so wish he would make it!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Arizona fall league is for real prospects. He absolutely took the spot from someone who could've actually advanced their career to play out a farce. .469 OPS in 123 plate appearances. Sometimes a small sample is all you need.

As for Jordan? well that was a joke too, and a worse one as he took up a double A roster spot.

However, I don't really care how teams waste their money and minor league developmental process, as long as that team isn't the Dodgers!

[JTysver]

Not a giant Tebow fan. I don't believe he is humble in that he openly flaunts his humility. I'm a die hard Mets fan.
He was not a good NFL QB. He had the opportunity to be a tight end and dismissed that.
All that being said, I don't see where the Mets getting a strong "character guy" is a stretch or a bad move. There is nothing to lose by having him playing in low-A ball for them. He will be surrounded by 18-21 year olds who can use a solid and upright accomplished athlete to set an example for them. He was signed for that reason mainly.
If, by chance, he excels to any degree, then that is all gravy.