52 Mantle Vs T206 Cobb

irv · #1 03-04-2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KendallCat

Not all PSA 2.5/3 Mantles are beater class. With the Mantle centering is key and maybe 10% have decent centering and eye appeal. Tons of 5's-7's with 75/25 centering which makes the card not very attractive. BTW - I would prefer my PSA 3 beater over any Cobb 5/6.

That is an unbelievable 3, imo. Is there something severely wrong with the back or something else we can't see in the scan?

When I first seen it, I was thinking 6-7, not 3.

sterlingfox · #2 03-04-2017, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by irv

That is an unbelievable 3, imo. Is there something severely wrong with the back or something else we can't see in the scan?

When I first seen it, I was thinking 6-7, not 3.

While still extremely visually appealing, I see a faint amount of paper loss on the upper right corner.

ullmandds · #3 03-04-2017, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingfox

While still extremely visually appealing, I see a faint amount of paper loss on the upper right corner.

and a faint crease horizontally through the ny in micks hat. nonetheless a gorgeous card!!!

irv · #4 03-04-2017, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingfox

While still extremely visually appealing, I see a faint amount of paper loss on the upper right corner.

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

and a faint crease horizontally through the ny in micks hat. nonetheless a gorgeous card!!!

You guys likely have better eyes than me and more experience, so I'll have to take your word for it that those are the reasons as I can see neither of those.

Imo, this is a clear, buy the card not the slab situation.

ullmandds · #5 03-04-2017, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by irv

You guys likely have better eyes than me and more experience, so I'll have to take your word for it that those are the reasons as I can see neither of those.

Imo, this is a clear, buy the card not the slab situation.

and it appears creasing/wrinkling mid neck.

KendallCat · #6 03-04-2017, 07:57 AM

No paper loss on the corner, but there is a slight wrinkle going through the hat area - very good eyes there

Got very lucky when I was offered the card about 1.5 years ago, and I would personally rather have a card with that flaw where most are trying to guess what the issue is versus a card that is tilted/80/20 centering, corner has been chewed off... without that crease the card is probably a 4.5/5 or possibly better and now a $100k card and out of my price range.

Back to the original subject at hand between Cobb and Mantle. Both were great players and in different respects. What I am curious about is why several people commented "once the baby boomers die off there will be no interest in Mantle since nobody will have seen him play." If that is the case there should be nobody around now that wants a Cobb, Wagner, Young, Walter Johnson... using that rationale.

Mantle is baseballs version of a legend like Paul Bunyan -how fast was he, how far could he hit it.... add to that he has the BEST World Series numbers and records and it only cements his legacy.

Now that we solved that issue we can argue which is his true rookie

Republicaninmass · #7 03-04-2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KendallCat

.. without that crease the card is probably a 4.5/5 or possibly better and now a $100k card and out of my price range.]

Vcp Average sales for a 4.5 is 37k, and 5s are 60k...but I guess anything is possible

Huysmans · #8 03-04-2017, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KendallCat

No paper loss on the corner, but there is a slight wrinkle going through the hat area - very good eyes there

Got very lucky when I was offered the card about 1.5 years ago, and I would personally rather have a card with that flaw where most are trying to guess what the issue is versus a card that is tilted/80/20 centering, corner has been chewed off... without that crease the card is probably a 4.5/5 or possibly better and now a $100k card and out of my price range.

Back to the original subject at hand between Cobb and Mantle. Both were great players and in different respects. What I am curious about is why several people commented "once the baby boomers die off there will be no interest in Mantle since nobody will have seen him play." If that is the case there should be nobody around now that wants a Cobb, Wagner, Young, Walter Johnson... using that rationale.

Mantle is baseballs version of a legend like Paul Bunyan -how fast was he, how far could he hit it.... add to that he has the BEST World Series numbers and records and it only cements his legacy.

Now that we solved that issue we can argue which is his true rookie

Uhh no, you have the "rationale" backwards. There was NO organized hobby contemporary to all the Dead Ball Era players you listed, hence, from day one of the modern hobby, those players have been highy venerated REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT NO MODERN COLLECTORS SAW THEM PLAY. That is not the case with Mantle. So assuming it will be the same for The Mick as it has been for past legends is purely speculation, and NOTHING more.

MVSNYC · #9 03-04-2017, 07:05 AM

Here's the thing...if we're talking purely for an investment. It's all about supply and demand. Both cards have great demand, but there's a far larger audience for the Mantle, it crosses over outside of the Hobby...Yes there's less green cobbs, but he has a specific niche audience. And this is coming from a passionate T206 collector.

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