Hey, pennant guys

[ricardoh]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Wondering if anyone has any information on this Steelers pennant? It's not particularly rare but it's curious to me because it has "Championship - American Conference" on it. The graphic is an old style and Egner's book places it in the 1950's. The Steelers were in the NFL's old American Conference from 1950-52 but never played in even a playoff game during this time. Conference's didnt have championship games back then anyway. They were just called playoffs with the championship pitting the winner from the respective conferences.

Of course, the Steelers played in many American Conference Championship games in the 70's but this pennant obviously isn't from that time period.

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After I posted this, I noticed it was mentioned already, but anyway,..

This is a pennant from the 1972 playoff game against the Dolphins.
I own both pennants; the Dolphin one is much rarer to find but has the same printing. Evidently the AdFlag company (out of Chicago at the time, now long extinct) made these with less attention to historical accruacy than to dramatic effects. Such were the times. The crackdown by the NFL and MLB on 'bootlegs' like these was making their days more and more numbered.

I would love to find any historical documentation on the AdFlag company. Anyone who has links to it from the internet, please share, anytime -

[Fballguy]

Thanks all for the responses. Great point regarding the $0.40 per pennant shipping cost.

Agreed...whatever I'd save in shipping cost would be eaten and then some buy the cost of the foam core. Guess I'll just stick to my current method of saving and re-using the cardboard from previously rec'd pennants.

But that just means I'll have to buy more pennants for my collection so I don't run out of shipping supplies.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Thanks all for the responses. Great point regarding the $0.40 per pennant shipping cost.

Agreed...whatever I'd save in shipping cost would be eaten and then some buy the cost of the foam core. Guess I'll just stick to my current method of saving and re-using the cardboard from previously rec'd pennants.

But that just means I'll have to buy more pennants for my collection so I don't run out of shipping supplies.

Hey, that's my method too!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by ricardoh

i would love to find any historical documentation on the adflag company. Anyone who has links to it from the internet, please share, anytime -

+1

[Fballguy]

As I mentioned...Earlier this week I picked up 150 pennants via 15 auctions from the same seller. They sent the invoice and I paid. All seemed well. Then last night I received a message from the seller stating that due to an Ebay glitch, one of the auctions was listed twice, both ending at the same time...and of course...there were two different winners. Thus, they were refunding my payment for that lot. They provided the item number for the second listing so I checked it out and discovered I had the higher bid...and both auctions did end at the same time. So why would they give the lot to the under bidder? I've asked this question of them and so far no response. I also asked why they didn't refund some of the shipping cost (just because I was annoyed)...since they are sending me 11 fewer pennants.

This piqued my curiosity again so I started playing around with the shipping to get an idea of what the real cost would be. I assumed 30 pounds...which is probably way more than 150 pennants weighs...and 30x15x12 packaging...and via priority mail the cost would be $52. They charged me $58...close enough...however, they didn't ship priority. They shipped USPS Parcel Select, which from my googling is much cheaper...though I couldn't find pricing for it.

Anyway...Attached is the lot I'm not getting and I'm wondering what the value is on the New York Giants pennant? They're the most interesting pennants in this lot. My annoyance has started to subside, but the answer to this question may cause a relapse.

By the way...My winning bid was $26.

End of rant...

[ooo-ribay]

Hey Rob-

1) the whole double listing thing sounds a little fishy.

2) I think those two New York Giants pennent were the only pennants in that lot with a value of any more than maybe 5 bucks apiece. If the Giants pennants are real, they are Keezer pennants and very nice. I think they date to the 1950's (not earlier) and there are mini versions of the same. Getting two of them for $26 would have been a big time steal.

[ooo-ribay]

Easily $50 ea. pennants, IMO. Maybe/probably more.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Those Giants are reprint pennants worth about $5

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Those Giants are reprint pennants worth about $5

Yeah, looking at those again, they seem a little off.

I hope mine is not a reprint. I'm led to believe the SF is also a Keezer, based on the discussion that started on page 63 of this thread...

[Duluth Eskimo]

Also, despite what I mentioned earlier regarding being ok with $58, I think UPS parcel post would be much cheaper. I just made the comment because it was 150 pennants and figured you were working off of higher dollar amount pennants. I think given everything you have described, I would be a little salty too.

[ooo-ribay]

Give the the news, Jason. I can take it.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Those are both real vintage pennants. The ones in the auction are made like the royal blue Brooklyn Dodgers ones that you oftentimes see being described as "authentic"