Maybe the 52 Topps Highs did get dumped?

[7nohitter]

I've often wondered if there are any remnants on the ocean floor. Extreme long shot I would guess.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

I've often wondered if there are any remnants on the ocean floor. Extreme long shot I would guess.

Since it took decades to find the Titanic, I'm guessing the odds of finding intact or remnants of cases of baseball cards would be infinitely smaller.

In addition, the number of people collecting Titanic memorabilia may even exceed the number of people collecting '52 Topps baseball. Given that, more effort would be made in looking for the Titanic... and it took years.

[Exhibitman]

Berger had been telling the garbage scow story since the 1970s. At least. I tend to believe a consistent eyewitness report over inductive reasoning.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Berger had been telling the garbage scow story since the 1970s. At least. I tend to believe a consistent eyewitness report over inductive reasoning.

Depends if Sy was actually there LOL

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Berger had been telling the garbage scow story since the 1970s. At least. I tend to believe a consistent eyewitness report over inductive reasoning.

Agree with Adam. Even in the early articles he has been consistent with this story.

Z

[Republicaninmass]

The FACT that the 52 highs are found in 1953 wrappers mean anything? Maybe "just a few" were still hanging around until then, and ole Sy tried to come up with a story how to move them to store owners, hide them in 53 wrappers. We do know they were at least hanging around until then.

I've always thought the "mistake" of releasing them later in the year was BS, as it has a lot of stars, and mostly filled with World Series competitors, albeit many managers. I feel its Dodger, Yankee, Red Sox, and Giant heavy.

[Cliff Bowman]

I wouldn't doubt at all that they dumped a bunch of them in the ocean sixty five years ago, my Dad told me that is was common to ditch old worn out vehicles in the woods and desolate areas back in the fifties and sixties because there was no market for them and you would have pay to legally get rid of them, and you could easily get away with that back then. I don't buy the theory that the 1952 Topps high numbers are scarce, in my opinion they are relatively plentiful and available, even in high grade. The set is immensely popular and there is a huge demand for it, but like I said before every single high number is available on eBay in multiple copies with many in high grade. You certainly can't say that about 1967 Topps Punch Outs, 1966 Pro's Pizza, or 1982 Topps Blackless.

[ALR-bishop]

Cliff-- I think I heard that Sy had the extras from those 3 loaded aboard the Edmund Fitzgerald

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I don't buy the theory that the 1952 Topps high numbers are scarce, in my opinion they are relatively plentiful and available, even in high grade. The set is immensely popular and there is a huge demand for it, but like I said before every single high number is available on eBay in multiple copies with many in high grade. You certainly can't say that about 1967 Topps Punch Outs, 1966 Pro's Pizza, or 1982 Topps Blackless.

I agree, when a 52s Hi # card's population is compared to obscure regional/test issues /t206 Wagner/etc they are indeed not scarce. However, when compared to other regular issue Topps sets (since they are indeed a "regular" issue) from the 50s, the 52 Hi #s are the scarcest (regular) series issued Topps series by far, graded or non-graded. The scarcity of this series is all relative as to what you compare it to.


FWIW, I believe the 52s HIs are swimming with the fish....if they are not swimming with the fish, than what happened to them if they existed at all?

[Volod]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

I've often wondered if there are any remnants on the ocean floor. Extreme long shot I would guess.

Sounds like a project that could be pitched to the History Channel...somebody get me John Chatterton's cell...

[Shoebox]

There was a movie I saw that involved trying to prove if the urban legend about a mass landfill dump of thousands of copies of the ET Atari game had actually taken place. It was inconclusive, but the general sense was that it was likely a fiction.

[toppcat]

If anything was dumped, it's long disintegrated.

[irv]

Originally Posted by toppcat

If anything was dumped, it's long disintegrated.

50+ yrs ago or so, I'd say one wouldn't even find a trace even if they knew the exact spot they were dumped.

If anyone has the gumption for such a search, Josh Donaldson might just finance it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsjwRHzGaMg

[campyfan39]

You need to check out netflix "Atari: Game Over".
They DID find a massive trove of ET and other Atari cartridges in that landfill.

Originally Posted by Shoebox

There was a movie I saw that involved trying to prove if the urban legend about a mass landfill dump of thousands of copies of the ET Atari game had actually taken place. It was inconclusive, but the general sense was that it was likely a fiction.

[irv]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

You need to check out netflix "Atari: Game Over".
They DID find a massive trove of ET and other Atari cartridges in that landfill.

I thought I had heard the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48DB9NRc60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHXK2mKtu20

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

You need to check out netflix "Atari: Game Over".
They DID find a massive trove of ET and other Atari cartridges in that landfill.

That was the one I was thinking of. I guess I just didn't accurately remember their conclusions.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Volod

Sounds like a project that could be pitched to the History Channel...somebody get me John Chatterton's cell...

It would probably end up like Geraldo Rivera and Capones safe...

Hosted by TV personality Geraldo Rivera, the special centered on the opening of a secret vault in the Lexington Hotel once owned by noted crime lord Al Capone, which turned out to be empty except for debris.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

It would probably end up like Geraldo Rivera and Capones safe...

Hosted by TV personality Geraldo Rivera, the special centered on the opening of a secret vault in the Lexington Hotel once owned by noted crime lord Al Capone, which turned out to be empty except for debris.

I remember the hype around that. Unbelievable!

[JustinD]

I am sure some of the older crowd remembers the 50s and 60s quite well. I can't fathom in any way why in a time that many homes had incinerators as commonly as ovens that a company would waste the time barging paper product out to sea for dumping.

I do not doubt that they could have been destroyed but I think the dumping story was another of Sy's tall tales because it sounded neat. If there was such a pile he could not move, incinerating would have cost near nothing at the time.