Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Wow I missed this one ... but yes, great insight. Zooming in it looks to me like a "cloth" pennant, i.e. the limp kind that frays on the edges with age (loose strands). The folds in the pennant suggest that, as does the stain on the top edge. Also you can tell the white strip is not felt, but kinda like the feel of a cotton dress shirt. Looks to me very similar in material and design to an Astros pennant I have here.

[thetahat]

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[Fballguy]

I was watching that one, along with the Sallies, Newark Eagles and New York Yanks football pennant from the same seller. I got the Yanks. Wanted to bid on all four but controlled myself. I've got a wedding coming up and all the expenses that go along with it.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Wow I missed this one ... but yes, great insight. Zooming in it looks to me like a "cloth" pennant, i.e. the limp kind that frays on the edges with age (loose strands). The folds in the pennant suggest that, as does the stain on the top edge. Also you can tell the white strip is not felt, but kinda like the feel of a cotton dress shirt. Looks to me very similar in material and design to an Astros pennant I have here.

Yeah, I guess it probably is a cloth pennant.... I couldn't see any of the typical loose/frayed edge threads, but after zooming in on it, I think you're right. The material looks thinner than at first glance.

So I wonder what a "Tackle Twill" Pennant looks like.

[thetahat]

I love the cloth pennants. When you are lucky enough to get a good one with no fading or fraying, or with cracked print ... the '55 Dodger scroll is my very favorite. Never have seen a felt version. In the late 60s, including some 1969 trademarked pennants, the cloth pennants were still cloth but a little less limp, they actually have a really good feel to them. The white Pilots pennant falls in this category.

I think all the 60s photo pennants were cloth ...

[WillowGrove]

I thought I'd push this great thread back to the top with this Dodgers pennant I just picked up. (sorry if I outbid anyone here). It's only the third pennant I own but I just got a kick of the names jammed into the bunting.

Not the best design but that's why I like it.

Interesting to note, maybe just to me, but there are 25 players listed however in 1951 the Dodgers (and all teams I assume) could break camp with 26 players and had 30-days to get down to 25 man. They broke camp with an Earl Mosser who was sent down after 30 days.

Not too surprising as he was the last man to make the team but the pennant maker guessed right. Anyway, by 6/1 Van Cuyk was sent down, 6/8 Tommy Brown was dealt and then 6/15 4 more players were dealt.

So I don't know about typical pennant runs, or who made this particular style - but after a third of the season, this pennant was about 25% incorrect.

Are the pennants with player's names usually done at the beginning of the season or more for post season? Or Both?

Anyway - hope you like.

[vintagesportscollector]

Could use a little help from the Pennant Guys..

I just got in hand this Collegiate of Ames pennant. It's only the second time I have seen this Cornell version, so I'm pretty happy to get it. It's 28" without the tassels. Paid $56 on eBay, and took a bit of a flyer on it because the one picture offered was terrible and blurry and the seller wouldn't answer any questions. I could tell it had some issues and was wrinkled. Overall turns out to be quite good, but it's wrinkled and the Bears felt design is dry and stiff, making it difficult to completely flatten out.

Any suggestions on how to address the wrinkles and add a little suppleness to the stiff felt bear design? a light steam bath perhaps?

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[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

Could use a little help from the Pennant Guys..

I just got in hand this Collegiate of Ames pennant. It's only the second time I have seen this Cornell version, so I'm pretty happy to get it. It's 28" without the tassels. Paid $56 on eBay, and took a bit of a flyer on it because the one picture offered was terrible and blurry and the seller wouldn't answer any questions. I could tell it had some issues and was wrinkled. Overall turns out to be quite good, but it's wrinkled and the Bears felt design is dry and stiff, making it difficult to completely flatten out.

Any suggestions on how to address the wrinkles and add a little suppleness to the stiff felt bear design? a light steam bath perhaps?

Love the pennant! Steam and/or ironing on "low" from the backside ought to flatten it out. I'm a little confused by what you mean by "the stiff felt bear design"....are the bears or "BEARS" lettering painted on or applied felt?

[vintagesportscollector]

Thanks Rob. The Bears and all the lettering are applied felt. The felt on part of the male bear face is stiffed and cracked. Where there is a wrinkle running thru his face, I don't want press down too hard on the wrinkle and crack the felt further.

[ooo-ribay]

Joe - I often do things to pennants that no sane person would attempt. I've been lucky with getting good results and not exacerbating any problems. I don't own a steamer but that might be your best best. Straight water from a spray bottle might help the stiffness, too. Bottom line, I wouldn't be worried using any "water" method and/or an iron on low. Keep us posted!

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Joe - I often do things to pennants that no sane person would attempt. I've been lucky with getting good results and not exacerbating any problems. I don't own a steamer but that might be your best best. Straight water from a spray bottle might help the stiffness, too. Bottom line, I wouldn't be worried using any "water" method and/or an iron on low. Keep us posted!

Thanks Rob, that's what I was interested in hearing. I think I'll try a light mist from a spray bottle.

[Huysmans]

Hey Joe,

I find if you put the pennant between two thick towels, you can go a little warmer with the Iron. This has worked for me for creases and folds on stiffer pennants.
Hope this helps.

Brent

[Fballguy]

Ok...For the ironing novices...Is a cool iron closer to the "cotton-linen" setting or "synthetic" setting???

[Tigerden]

I agree with putting it between two towels at a higher setting. Also, if you have an inexpensive pennant to use as practice you may want to use it as a test. If too hot and ironing directly onto the pennant you can singe the back (I know from experience). I would not worry about getting every crease out of the pennant. I think its fine myself. Do the Ames Collegiate pennants fit into the hard plastic sleeves? If so I would think the sleeve will help flatten it out. Nice pennant. Good luck. Adam

[perezfan]

Good advice! Practice on a cheapie first. And don't worry about getting every one of the wrinkles out.

I only iron the ones that are borderline eye-sores. Or ones in which the tip is curled like a pig's tail. If you can fit it into a pennant sleeve, that will indeed help flatten it more "naturally".

[perezfan]

Here's one that is so very tempting, but I can't quite pull the trigger. Was hoping for free shipping, and he just won't bend off the $2.67...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-chic...sAAOSwx6pYps87

Oh well... for anyone intending to snipe, I am sorry if I outed this auction

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Wow I missed this one ... but yes, great insight. Zooming in it looks to me like a "cloth" pennant, i.e. the limp kind that frays on the edges with age (loose strands). The folds in the pennant suggest that, as does the stain on the top edge. Also you can tell the white strip is not felt, but kinda like the feel of a cotton dress shirt. Looks to me very similar in material and design to an Astros pennant I have here.

FWIW, I have to completely disagree. My ipad has nearly infinite zooming and that pennant looks like felt (as labeled) to me. I know what you're talking about when you say "cloth" and this doesn't look like that to me. Just my two cents...

[mjkm90]

Fantastic Dodgers pennant Peter

Most of the roster pennants I have seen were based on the playoff roster or the names of note from the previous season.

[Bumpus Jones]

Neat pennant Peter. Congrats!

[thetahat]

Very cool pennant, Peter! Interestingly just this morning I noticed that one of my Phillies team picture pennants from the 60s had a pic and roster from spring training and it was described as such.

[bigfish]

New arrival..,,

[WillowGrove]

Nice Toby.

Thanks on the Bklyn pennant guys. So should I assume that pennants with the full roster are equally done for Opening Day as they are for the post season? It's just funny to me to put the effort into making a pennant that will change soon after the season starts.

Thanks again.