Tickets

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

There seem to be more people collecting vintage baseball tickets.

These 55 tickets are going for 150 and so are the programs. So crazy. Even 53 tickets are going nuts.

Someone bought a 56 reds stub vs dodgers @ cincy for 20 bucks with 2 punch holes and no Jackie. It's nuts. I might have to sit out a while and wait for the frenzy to chill out.

[71buc]

It depends on the collector as well as the game. 1971 pirate tickets are a good example. I am aware of three other collectors chasing them. If a ticket is listed that all four of us need we artificially inflate the price. Sellers see this and occasionally list a meaningless stub at $100. If a stub is listed we all have it sits there for months at less than $10. So I don't necessarily think inflated prices reflect long term value.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

I guess so. That's just annoying.

[Dave Grob]

I have not followed this segment of the hobby/industry as closely as I have followed others, but there may be a number of factors in play here.

1. Maturing collectors who have completed card sets and looking for something new to collect.

2. Maturing collectors dealing with rising prices/declining availability of game used or stadia items, thus tickets and scorecards represent an affordable vintage collectable by comparison.

3. Maturing team collectors looking to augment collections with scorecards and programs.

4. Maturing collections that now have to deal with space as premium, and tickets and scorecards are not storage space intensive.

5. Newer collectors looking to get into vintage items that are seeking for an affordable vintage collectable that is scalable/check list approach (a season, a player, events).

In some cases and with some collectors, it could be various combinations of the above factors. Just some thoughts for what it’s worth..

Dave Grob

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I have not followed this segment of the hobby/industry as closely as I have followed others, but there may be a number of factors in play here.

1. Maturing collectors who have completed card sets and looking for something new to collect.

2. Maturing collectors dealing with rising prices/declining availability of game used or stadia items, thus tickets and scorecards represent an affordable vintage collectable by comparison.

3. Maturing team collectors looking to augment collections with scorecards and programs.

4. Maturing collections that now have to deal with space as premium, and tickets and scorecards are not storage space intensive.

5. Newer collectors looking to get into vintage items that are seeking for an affordable vintage collectable that is scalable/check list approach (a season, a player, events).

In some cases and with some collectors, it could be various combinations of the above factors. Just some thoughts for what it’s worth..

Dave Grob

I have not thought about a lot of those reasons but they all make sense. Good to see people getting more involved in this portion.

[71buc]

My wife has called me many things "maturing" certainly isn't one of them. By the way I recently purchased your book and have greatly enjoyed it. Thanks!

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by 71buc

My wife has called me many things "maturing" certainly isn't one of them. By the way I recently purchased your book and have greatly enjoyed it. Thanks!

Hey Mike, I hear you. I also recently purchased Dave's book & I would highly recommend it to everyone.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I have not followed this segment of the hobby/industry as closely as I have followed others, but there may be a number of factors in play here.

1. Maturing collectors who have completed card sets and looking for something new to collect.

2. Maturing collectors dealing with rising prices/declining availability of game used or stadia items, thus tickets and scorecards represent an affordable vintage collectable by comparison.

3. Maturing team collectors looking to augment collections with scorecards and programs.

4. Maturing collections that now have to deal with space as premium, and tickets and scorecards are not storage space intensive.

5. Newer collectors looking to get into vintage items that are seeking for an affordable vintage collectable that is scalable/check list approach (a season, a player, events).

In some cases and with some collectors, it could be various combinations of the above factors. Just some thoughts for what it’s worth..

Dave Grob

Hi Dave,
+1 Very good. I would agree with all of your observations. The bottom line is that the ticket collector community is absolutely growing.
Personally, I am finding #3 and #4 on your list to both be very prevalent.

[lrspaulp]

I just recently bought a collection and the gentlemen went to a lot of World Series and All-star games in the 1970's and 1980's and I was bit by the ticket stub bug. I have been collecting for a few months now and noticed prices. If anyone has any advice or tips I would appreciate it. Thank you.

[mrmopar]

With the help of baseball-reference.com, I finally went and documented significant dates in Steve Garvey's career in hopes of snagging some key tickets. I already had the debut and some others, like the consecutive game streak. I have yet to stumble upon something less known, such as his first triple (for example). It probably helps that these tickets are mostly 70s/80s, but I would guess finding the better ones will provide difficult and/or expensive.

One stub I did find and wanted was in a larger lot that I thought I might win with a higher snipe and I still lost. I was surprised at the final price frankly. I asked the seller to pass along to the buyer my contact info, but they refused. If anyone bought a 20-30 1970s stub lot of Dodgers in the last month or so and may be willing to move one (assuming you didn't need it as well), please let me know. I can let you know the seller to see if you might have been the buyer, but it is a larger ebay seller who lists many, many, many lots of what looks like warehouse or overstock type collectible stuff.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by lrspaulp

I just recently bought a collection and the gentlemen went to a lot of World Series and All-star games in the 1970's and 1980's and I was bit by the ticket stub bug. I have been collecting for a few months now and noticed prices. If anyone has any advice or tips I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Hi Paul,
Welcome to net54!
I listed several of my ticket collecting "tips" above, but feel free to contact me if you have specific questions. I have primarily been a collector of regular game day baseball, not World Series or All Star games, but I still have some knowledge about these topics as well.

[rschisler]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I have not followed this segment of the hobby/industry as closely as I have followed others, but there may be a number of factors in play here.

1. Maturing collectors who have completed card sets and looking for something new to collect.

2. Maturing collectors dealing with rising prices/declining availability of game used or stadia items, thus tickets and scorecards represent an affordable vintage collectable by comparison.

3. Maturing team collectors looking to augment collections with scorecards and programs.

4. Maturing collections that now have to deal with space as premium, and tickets and scorecards are not storage space intensive.

5. Newer collectors looking to get into vintage items that are seeking for an affordable vintage collectable that is scalable/check list approach (a season, a player, events).

In some cases and with some collectors, it could be various combinations of the above factors. Just some thoughts for what it’s worth..

Dave Grob

+1 Great points, Dave. I would also add that perhaps the nature of the autograph industry today is playing a role. I would imagine the number of forgeries, combined with negative press regarding many of the top TPAs, would be enough to steer folks away from autographs and into the ticket/program arena.

[vintagesportscollector]

Great point. I agree all of Dave's points are spot on and I relate to most of them, but the fact that you (for the most part) don't have to worry about fraud and forgeries with items like tickets, helps a lot. Where there has been forgeries, I've found them to be fairly easy to spot. You can enjoy tickets with less concern and without the need to have them slabbed or authenticated.

[Dave Grob]

With respect to tickets, I may be a bit of a contrarian in that I would prefer a stub to a full unused ticket. I have very few tickets, less than a couple of dozen in my collection, but part of the allure for me is the connection to the event. Yes I know the full ones look great slabbed (so some might say) and command more money, but to me an unused ticket is an object without any relevance…

For me, ticket stubs and scorecards provide contextual enhancement to other items in my collection. Probably the best example I can think of is I have a 1940 World Series Game 7 ticket stub, Pouge’s Department Store scorecard (sold outside the gate) and an original team mailing envelope for World Series tickets in a small display with Paul Derringer’s 1940 World Series cap. Does including these other items with the cap change or enhance the value in any appreciable manner? Maybe not, but as group they enhance the visual appeal of the main artifact (Derringer cap) and stimulate thought about the time and place.

Dave Grob