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Old 12-06-2016, 07:13 PM
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You can buy steroids (Sort of, but they'll still get you banned in most sports) From GNC. Amphetamines? probably not.

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If you are comparing the the crap you buy at GNC to real steroids you just need to walk over a few isles and look at their energy section. In your comparison it would be the same as amphetamines. Most of that stuff will also make you fail a drug test in most sports. Some will also make you fail a urine drug test for work.
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I just threw up a little in my mouth.. Bud never addressed an issue until it became a public problem and he had no other way out.
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If you are comparing the the crap you buy at GNC to real steroids you just need to walk over a few isles and look at their energy section. In your comparison it would be the same as amphetamines. Most of that stuff will also make you fail a drug test in most sports. Some will also make you fail a urine drug test for work.
Yep, I always laughed when there would be some news about baseball not testing for stuff with overwrought opinions about it being cheating even of they didn't have any rules. Then they'd break for commercial and the first one was usually for "Al Weiders anabolic mass formula "

It's dishonest and ruining the game (Not very far off base there) Bulk up with this stuff that's probably banned by every sport except baseball! Geeeeezz.....really?!

I think the stuff McGwire admitted to was available at GNC, probably not as potent, but the same stuff. And probably just the tip of the iceberg for him.

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Yep, I always laughed when there would be some news about baseball not testing for stuff with overwrought opinions about it being cheating even of they didn't have any rules. Then they'd break for commercial and the first one was usually for "Al Weiders anabolic mass formula "

It's dishonest and ruining the game (Not very far off base there) Bulk up with this stuff that's probably banned by every sport except baseball! Geeeeezz.....really?!

I think the stuff McGwire admitted to was available at GNC, probably not as potent, but the same stuff. And probably just the tip of the iceberg for him.

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To keep this a little on topic I will say putting Selig in and keeping IMHO the best pitcher in the history of the game Roger Clemens out is a travesty.

Steve I agree completely. McGwire had Androstenedione in his locker and I also believe it was just the tip of the iceberg with him. I know I stood beside him in 1999 and am 6' tall and was a very roided out 220 lbs of solid muscle and he made me look like a skinny little kid.
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The biggest problem I have with Selig is that he was a really weak commissioner. Lousy decision on a long and tied AS game, silly rule developed after, no leverage used to get a CBA that put any teeth into the rules about PEDs, pretty much waffled until the money changed directions and went with the flow.
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