PSA and off center cards

[Manny Trillo]

Originally Posted by irv

What people decide to pay is reflected in the card and it's condition, including centering.

If a OC 7 wasn't OC, it would be graded an 8 or higher so what you are asking for is already in place.

Oh, ok. I didnt know that.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530AZ using Tapatalk

[tjenkins]

I personally prefer a PSA 8 OC or MC over a PSA 6 or 7 (centered), especially if the color and focus is rich and clear. I collect off center cards and I am usually pretty excited when I can pick a PSA 8 or 9 OC/MC for much less. I simply look at it as the technology of the time and that miscut cards are just the way they came out sometimes, often times. It is more important to me that I see the player clearly then see him centered. So I don't mind PSA's current system.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by tjenkins

I personally prefer a PSA 8 OC or MC over a PSA 6 or 7 (centered), especially if the color and focus is rich and clear. I collect off center cards and I am usually pretty excited when I can pick a PSA 8 or 9 OC/MC for much less. I simply look at it as the technology of the time and that miscut cards are just the way they came out sometimes, often times. It is more important to me that I see the player clearly them see him centered. So I don't mind PSA's current system.

..amazing co-incidence that this thread appeared while I was trying to cut through the damned tape on the box from PSA which just came today...
..I'd bought the BVG 4 '58 White Letter Clemente because I knew that it was certainly not a "4" , except to Beckett Vintage Grading ; but the Beckett grader's hands were tied ; they could not give a final grade above a "4" despite how effing gorgeous the card is because the lowest sub-grade was a "2"---the other subs were all "8" with an amazing "8.5" for surface ; this is literally a pack-fresh card from 1958..

..It's now graded as what it actually is : NM-MT with a MC qualifier...about once a year I find a situation like this but rarely a Minty White Letter '58 Clemente...

..

[Manny Trillo]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..amazing co-incidence that this thread appeared while I was trying to cut through the damned tape on the box from PSA which just came today...
..I'd bought the BVG 4 '58 White Letter Clemente because I knew that it was certainly not a "4" , except to Beckett Vintage Grading ; but the Beckett grader's hands were tied ; they could not give a final grade above a "4" despite how effing gorgeous the card is because the lowest sub-grade was a "2"---the other subs were all "8" with an amazing "8.5" for surface ; this is literally a pack-fresh card from 1958..

..It's now graded as what it actually is : NM-MT with a MC qualifier...about once a year I find a situation like this but rarely a Minty White Letter '58 Clemente...

..

Great example. IMHO, Beckett's 4 is more accurate because it takes into account the market reality. But I see your point as well.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530AZ using Tapatalk

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Manny Trillo

Great example. IMHO, Beckett's 4 is more accurate because it takes into account the market reality. But I see your point as well.

You think this would sell closer to a PSA 4 price than a PSA 6? Because that's the general consensus when it comes to the OC/MC grades: a two-point drop.

[Touch'EmAll]

Speaking of centering, how are (oc) and (mc) different? Is the (mc) simply worse than (oc) ? Or can (mc) also include flaws that are not (oc) ?

[swarmee]

Miscut is when a part of another card is visible on the card or a portion of your card is cut off. Off-center is when the entire image is on the card, but not centered. PSA is more lenient to sets like 1955 Bowman if the miscut is on the back, they might not even give it the MC qualifier.