FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 5 -

[DeanH3]

"just bought a card from peter speith and paid asking on a leaf Jackie psa 4 in the past few weeks."

So you did snake that Robinson card from me when I had asked about first. Nice to know how you operate.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

"just bought a card from peter speith and paid asking on a leaf Jackie psa 4 in the past few weeks."

So you did snake that Robinson card from me when I had asked about first. Nice to know how you operate.

what a crock....why dont you tell everyone that i agreed to the price first. What did the seller tell you? He told me i agreed to his price first. Am i wrong?

If not that you are just stirring pot Nice to know how you operate. Lose out on card so say negative things to the buyer that agreed first.

Not sure what i am to blame. I noticed you didnt say you agreed to pay the price first.

Why dont you give the details. I know you wont because your argument is silly as the seller already told you that i agreed to pay before.

Man sour grapes. You just jump in with that nonsense.

So i can agree to a price before you do, and im the bad guy.

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

what a crock....why dont you tell everyone that i agreed to the price first. What did the seller tell you? He told me i agreed to his price first. Am i wrong?

If not that you just stirring pot Nice to know how you operate. Not sure what i am to blame. I noticeyou didnt say you agreed to pay the price first.

Why dont you give the details. I know you want because you were wrong to post it and the seller already told you that i agreed to pay before.

Man sour grapes. You just jump in with that nonsense.

Sour grapes, that's hilarious. There are plenty of '48, oops sorry, '49 leaf jackie's out there. What pissed me off is you didn't give a rats ass about me since I had inquired about it first. I guess to you all is fair in love, war and baseball cards. See if it were me, I would have told the OP that I would want the card if the first person passed. But not you....you jump to the head of the line. Enjoy the card, you obviously wanted it more than me since you were willing to sell your integrity (at least in my eyes) for it. Congrats!

And in regards to the seller. He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it. Not that you had agreed to the price first. Your "I'll take it" didn't come until 10 minutes after my PM. He never mention you at all. I suspected it was you but figured it was someone else. Guess I was right after all. Besides if you had already agreed to the price BEFORE my PM, then there was no reason for you to post "I'll take it" after my message.

Again, I'm not upset about missing out on the card. Just your lack of common courtesy. Maybe I'm the fool for thinking integrity is worth more than a baseball card.

Finally, I'm done here. I'm not getting into a pissing match with you. There will plenty of other members you'll get to do that with. What's done is done. I just know that you'll do anything to get a card you want. That's cool. I just know how you operate.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Sour grapes, that's hilarious. There are plenty of '48, oops sorry, '49 leaf jackie's out there. What pissed me off is you didn't give a rats ass about me since I had inquired about it first. I guess to you all is fair in love, war and baseball cards. See if it were me, I would have told the OP that I would want the card if the first person passed. But not you....you jump to the head of the line. Enjoy the card, you obviously wanted it more than me since you were willing to sell your integrity (at least in my eyes) for it. Congrats!

And in regards to the seller. He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it. Not that you had agreed to the price first. Your "I'll take it" didn't come until 10 minutes after my PM. He never mention you at all. I suspected it was you but figured it was someone else. Guess I was right after all. Besides if you had already agreed to the price BEFORE my PM, then there was no reason for you to post "I'll take it" after my message.

Again, I'm not upset about missing out on the card. Just your lack of common courtesy. Maybe I'm the fool for thinking integrity is worth more than a baseball card.

Finally, I'm done here. I'm not getting into a pissing match with you. There will plenty of other members you'll get to do that with. What's done is done. I just know that you'll do anything to get a card you want. That's cool. I just know how you operate.

'He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it' So why dont you practice what you preached and wait to see if i had passed. You admit right there that i contacted him first. Funny he didnt mention you until after i agreed to pay asking price.


I had no idea of your contacts with him. . I emailed him from my email off of net54 If the card is no big deal, why give it a second thought?

I posted ill take it to show that i paid listing price and to avoid anyone else making an offer since it wast listed as sold yet and that was the first time i saw your 'pm sent'. . I had already agreed with him via email earlier as he told you. Maybe you should post ill take it' if you are paying asking price.

What did you offer by the way. I assumed you offered less than asking price and then after you saw my ill take it, you told me to get in line because maybe then you offered Asking price.

I also like to post ill take it when i didnt see it listed that the card had sold. I already bought the card. I didnt know PM sent means you have wait in line by the way, even though i didnt see it when i was communicating via email and off the net54 site.

again so the card is no big deal yet you bring this up? I really dont think anyone on net54 thinks what i did was wrong at all.

You cant say get in line and offer asking price after i say 'ill take it' People usually post ill take it takes precedence over ongoing negotiations. Sorry for saying ill take it while you were trying to negotiate to get the card for less. Easy to say know you were willing to go to asking price after the card is sold.

Bottom line- I contacted him first that you admit, You are in negotiations and not offering asking price, and i pay asking price and this card doesnt matter. Am i really a bad guy for this?


I also dont see why you would put this on my b/s/t thread. The fact i paid asking on that psa 4 jackie which is above VCP that calvindog loves to cite (except for his own cards) does show the respect i have for the card and the reason i wanted to sell my 5 since i got a 4 that would be cheaper to hold

[DeanH3]

I don't know why I'm chasing the rabbit down the hole because it doesn't matter now anyway, but I was going to pay his asking price.

And, to me, you didn't need to post "I'll take it " after me because you had already agreed to buy it before me. Maybe you'd have been better off just staying silent and not creating any confusion. Don't you trust the seller to keep his word if he agrees to sell it to you? You didn't need to "announce" to the forum you bought it. Just my opinion.

And I bring it up because from my perspective it just didn't sit right with me. It had NOTHING to with the actual card itself. There will plenty of leaf robinson's to buy in the future. I know of a PSA 5 I can buy right now at asking price, but I'm not interested.

Again, what's done is done and I'm finally done.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

I don't know why I'm chasing the rabbit down the hole because it doesn't matter now anyway, but I was going to pay his asking price.

And, to me, you didn't need to post "I'll take it " after me because you had already agreed to buy it before me. Maybe you'd have been better off just staying silent and not creating any confusion. Don't you trust the seller to keep his word if he agrees to sell it to you? You didn't need to "announce" to the forum you bought it. Just my opinion.

And I bring it up because from my perspective it just didn't sit right with me. It had NOTHING to with the actual card itself. There will plenty of leaf robinson's to buy in the future. I know of a PSA 5 I can buy right now at asking price, but I'm not interested.

Again, what's done is done and I'm finally done.

Understood but i do believe your criticism is unfair. You are telling me to wait if i knew someone was having ongoing negotiations, which i didnt by the way. However, you learn that i already contacted him and you didnt appear to want to wait. Your basically accusing me of something that you actually tried to do. I didnt even know about your negotiations until after i bought the card.

Also if you were going to pay asking price, why didnt you just put ill take it. Why the pm sent. You seem to question what i wrote etc, but you should look at what you wrote. Its confusing to me that you were agreeing to pay asking price but took the time to say 'pm sent'

Its clear from my' ill take it' that I was willing to pay asking price (guess it wasnt a lowball offer), its not clear if you ever offered him that.

Like you said whats done is done, but i dont think anyone would agree i did anything remotely wrong. Due to the nature of this thread, i guess i am an easy target but i dont think anyone will agree with you that i did anything wrong in that transaction. I contacted him first, i offered listing price first and and for that you are critical of me.

[calvindog]

Jakey, at some point -- perhaps -- you're going to realize what I've been telling you: that you're not only the biggest idiot on Net 54 but the biggest scumbag. No matter how many people are complaining about you it's never your fault.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Jakey, at some point -- perhaps -- you're going to realize what I've been telling you: that you're not only the biggest idiot on Net 54 but the biggest scumbag. No matter how many people are complaining about you it's never your fault.

ok so now i am a scumbag. I am at fault for lots of things. No one is perfect. You are getting a ton of complaints. Maybe you arent perfect There are people that think what you posted on this thread is not appropriate. I thought you said you werent going to post anymore on this thread unless i posted on your threads. Guess you couldnt hold back and it was so important for you to add that. I can call you names too but again its just baseball cards. Man you waited a whole day to post that. I guess you have been very upset.

Good post there!

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

'He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it' So why dont you practice what you preached and wait to see if i had passed. You admit right there that i contacted him first. Funny he didnt mention you until after i agreed to pay asking price.


I had no idea of your contacts with him. . I emailed him from my email off of net54 If the card is no big deal, why give it a second thought?

I posted ill take it to show that i paid listing price and to avoid anyone else making an offer and that was the first time i saw your 'pm sent'. . I had already agreed with him via email earlier as he told you. Maybe you should post ill take it' if you are paying asking price.

As i said, after i bought the card i actually saw your PM when i was posting ill take it and asked him how close did you go to asking price. What did you offer by the way. I assumed you offered less than asking price and then after you saw my ill take it, you told me to get in line because maybe then you offered Asking price.

I also like to post ill take it when i didnt see it listed that the card had sold. I already bought the card. I didnt know PM sent means you have wait in line by the way, even though i didnt see it when i was communicating via email and off the net54 site.

again so the card is no big deal yet you bring this up? I really dont think anyone on net54 thinks what i did was wrong at all.

You cant say get in line and offer asking price after i say 'ill take it' People usually post ill take it takes precedence over ongoing negotiations. Sorry for saying ill take it while you were trying to negotiate to get the card for less. Easy to say know you were willing to go to asking price after the card is sold.

Bottom line- You are in negotiations and not offering asking price, and i pay asking price and this card doesnt matter. Am i really a bad guy for this?


I also dont see why you would put this on my b/s/t thread. The fact i paid asking on that psa 4 jackie which is above VCP that calvindog loves to cite (except for his own cards) does show the respect i have for the card and the reason i wanted to sell my 5 since i got a 4 that would be cheaper to hold

Holy cow....you sure added a whole lot after I was replying.

IF a seller states the first "I'll take it" supercedes all other inquiries or negotiations then by all means "go for it". But if a seller does not state that, then I would offer the common decency to the person who replied before me to get first dibs. That's just me.

Next time I will just say I'll take it because I know you're lurking out there.

Maybe I should have just started my own thread on the main board. I'll do that next time. Thanks for the advice.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Holy cow....you sure added a whole lot after I was replying.

IF a seller states the first "I'll take it" supercedes all other inquiries or negotiations then by all means "go for it". But if a seller does not state that, then I would offer the common decency to the person who replied before me to get first dibs. That's just me.

Next time I will just say I'll take it because I know you're lurking out there.

Maybe I should have just started my own thread on the main board. I'll do that next time. Thanks for the advice.

Ok, i am the one that contacted him first which you have admitted. Where was the common decency? I contacted him first and paid asking price first. Does anyone on Net54 contend i did anything wrong in this transaction.

[DeanH3]

I didn't say you contacted him first. How can I know that? Only the seller knows that. It just seems wierd that you'd "announce" your "I'll take it" 10 minutes after my PM. Also, How am I supposed to know, "l'll take it" after my PM means, "I've already contacted the seller before you and agreed to pay his asking price before you? I must have missed that in the Jake to Net54 translation guide.

My common decency is if I see someone post PM sent in a BST listing, I'll tell the seller I'm interested if the first person passes. I definitely won't go back to the thread and state, I'll take it", AFTER I have already bought it. I will let the seller inform other interested parties that the card has sold. Just me that's all.

Take all the polls you want. Everybody here can say I'm in the wrong. That's OK with me. It won't change MY mind that it didn't sit well with me.

Look, if you don't want people, like me, to continue to meddle in your BST thread. Then don't keep asking me questions. I'm good with letting this ride off into the sunset.