T206 Who should be a HOFer that isn't ???

[Topps206]

Changing the Hall committees isn't enough. We need actual historians voting for this era, not Hall of Famers from the modern era.

Blyleven said he researched Dahlen and Stovey on Wikipedia.

Boy would I have loved to have been in that meeting last year when they were turned away.

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by Topps206

Changing the Hall committees isn't enough. We need actual historians voting for this era, not Hall of Famers from the modern era.

Blyleven said he researched Dahlen and Stovey on Wikipedia.

Boy would I have loved to have been in that meeting last year when they were turned away.

Topps206 = mic drop.

DS

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

Topps206 = mic drop.

DS

It just makes my blood boil. Justice for Dahlen and Magee. Justice for Gavvy and Doyle. Bill Dineen contributed so much as both an umpire and a pitcher and he hasn't been inducted yet.

I'm just so mad they'll only be considered once a decade. I'm also convinced Babe Adams is worthy of enshrinement. I would beg to be on the Early Baseball committee in 2020, but who ever said Hall of Fame voters were logical folk?

[Topps206]

How does this forum feel about Jimmy Sheckard and Cooperstown?

[Jantz]

My vote

[Topps206]

He wasn't actually in the T206 set.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Topps206

How does this forum feel about Jimmy Sheckard and Cooperstown?

I believe Sheckard is worth talking about.

Cravath should be in
Dinneen probably should be as well for his all round


How about Fielder Jones????

[darwinbulldog]

Sorry if I missed them above, but I don't think anyone's mentioned Overall, Schulte, or Latham. Not that I really think they belong in the Hall (Overall isn't even eligible), but I think they were as good as most of the folks that have been mentioned in this thread.

Dahlen is the only one in T206 who deserves it as a player and hasn't been enshrined yet. Dinneen is a good pick for total contributions to the game.

The best pre-steroid era guys who haven't gotten in yet are Jim McCormick, Bob Caruthers, and Shoeless Joe.

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Sorry if I missed them above, but I don't think anyone's mentioned Overall, Schulte, or Latham. Not that I really think they belong in the Hall (Overall isn't even eligible), but I think they were as good as most of the folks that have been mentioned in this thread.

Dahlen is the only one in T206 who deserves it as a player and hasn't been enshrined yet. Dinneen is a good pick for total contributions to the game.

The best pre-steroid era guys who haven't gotten in yet are Jim McCormick, Bob Caruthers, and Shoeless Joe.

Overall didn't pitch long enough. Schulte had an amazing 1911, but it takes more than one Hall of Fame season to be a Hall of Fame player.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Sorry if I missed them above, but I don't think anyone's mentioned Overall, Schulte, or Latham. Not that I really think they belong in the Hall (Overall isn't even eligible), but I think they were as good as most of the folks that have been mentioned in this thread.

Dahlen is the only one in T206 who deserves it as a player and hasn't been enshrined yet. Dinneen is a good pick for total contributions to the game.

The best pre-steroid era guys who haven't gotten in yet are Jim McCormick, Bob Caruthers, and Shoeless Joe.

And Bob Johnson...

Tom C

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Sorry if I missed them above, but I don't think anyone's mentioned Overall, Schulte, or Latham. Not that I really think they belong in the Hall (Overall isn't even eligible), but I think they were as good as most of the folks that have been mentioned in this thread.

Dahlen is the only one in T206 who deserves it as a player and hasn't been enshrined yet. Dinneen is a good pick for total contributions to the game.

The best pre-steroid era guys who haven't gotten in yet are Jim McCormick, Bob Caruthers, and Shoeless Joe.

I like Latham. He's an interesting and good choice and is certainly in the category worth mentioning as the others.

Not so sure about Orval.

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

I believe Sheckard is worth talking about.

Cravath should be in
Dinneen probably should be as well for his all round


How about Fielder Jones????

I wouldn't be bothered by Sheckard getting inducted, but I'm not a cheeeleader for him, either. Sherry Magee absolutely must get in before we can start even thinking about Sheckard.

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

I believe Sheckard is worth talking about.

Cravath should be in
Dinneen probably should be as well for his all round


How about Fielder Jones????

I see nothing spectacular about Fielder Jones. Nice player. Nothing special.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Topps206

I see nothing spectacular about Fielder Jones. Nice player. Nothing special.

Player Manager of the "Hitless Wonders" I know it's a bit of a stretch but I'm surprised that his name is never mentioned. Posted a 426-293 managerial record. Pretty good win%

Like Dinneen I'm for his interactions in baseball besides a player. Donie Bush?????

No love for him? Considered one of the top fielding SS's in baseball in his day over 1,800 hits.

A Manager
A Owner
A Scout
An Executive

You can't get more versatile than that can you?

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by Topps206

How does this forum feel about Jimmy Sheckard and Cooperstown?

NO Gil Hodges??? NO Dale Murphy? NO Keith Hernandez? NO (insert many far-more-deserving names here, but...)

p.s. I know none of the above are T206, but, just for the sake of argument...sorry, just not feelin' it for Sheckard - UNLESS I was sittin' on a binder full of T206 Sheckard (there's exceptions to every "accepted" rule, ya know???)

JMO

DS

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

NO Gil Hodges??? NO Dale Murphy? NO Keith Hernandez? NO (insert many far-more-deserving names here, but...)

p.s. I know none of the above are T206, but, just for the sake of argument...sorry, just not feelin' it for Sheckard - UNLESS I was sittin' on a binder full of T206 Sheckard (there's exceptions to every "accepted" rule, ya know???)

JMO

DS

The only one you just mentioned who would get my support for Cooperstown is Hernandez.

Honestly before I started collecting the Monster many of these players I never heard of. I knew the big names like Wagner, Cobb, Plank, Mathewson, Johnson, basically all the Hall of Famers. I also knew of the likes of Dahlen, Magee, Cravath. I couldn't tell you anything about them, but I knew the name. I had no clue who Larry Doyle or Jimmy Sheckard were. This set taught me them and also I learned they were fantastic players.

[bbcard1]

there are lots of problems with the hall of fame, but that's what makes in interesting. If you use the worst player in the hall of fame as the litmus test for who belongs, pretty much everyone north of David Eckstien has an argument. making it more complex, winning 220 games in the 1980s is very different than willing 220 games in 1910 and will be exceedingly different than winning 220 games in 2020, just as hitting 500 homers in the 1930s or 40s is different than doing it in the 1990s. Plus the argument are you ranking players for their longevity or their pinnacle? That's what makes it a good argument.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

NO Gil Hodges??? NO Dale Murphy? NO Keith Hernandez? NO (insert many far-more-deserving names here, but...)

p.s. I know none of the above are T206, but, just for the sake of argument...sorry, just not feelin' it for Sheckard - UNLESS I was sittin' on a binder full of T206 Sheckard (there's exceptions to every "accepted" rule, ya know???)

JMO

DS

+1 on Sheckard big time....

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

NO Gil Hodges??? NO Dale Murphy? NO Keith Hernandez? NO (insert many far-more-deserving names here, but...)

p.s. I know none of the above are T206, but, just for the sake of argument...sorry, just not feelin' it for Sheckard - UNLESS I was sittin' on a binder full of T206 Sheckard (there's exceptions to every "accepted" rule, ya know???)

JMO

DS

Dale Murphy was my favorite player growing up, but sadly his career took too much of a nose dive due to injuries to be a HOF'er. Hall of very good yes, but doesn't measure up to the HOF standard.