SOLD: 1948-49 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 7

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Jake

What makes you "pretty sure" that the LEAF BB cards were "made in 48 and 49" ?

Did you collect them in 1948 ? ?


The LEAF's were my first color BB cards that I collected as a kid in 1949. These cards were NEVER issued in 1948 !

FYI......read my 8-page 1949 LEAF Baseball article in Issue #9 of the Old Cardboard magazine.


TED Z
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Hence the 'pretty sure', however I meant as far as the way the cards are treated in the category. Ie. how to call the card.

1989 topps cards could be made in 1990 as well but as far as what year you call the card a 1990 topps card

Afterall, it isnt unusual for a Leaf rookie with psa to say 1948..see the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-LEAF-79...QAAOSwepJXYqHA

The point i was making was that 1949 bowmans Jackies are not called rookie cards (maybe they were made in 1950) as opposed to 1948 leaf jackies. Given that the leaf jackies would be 1949s, i would think the 1949 bowmans would be just as much as a rookie card?

So i mentioned that they were 1948 or 1949. I believe there was literature out there about whether to call these cards 1948 or 1949 is what made me say pretty sure..I used to wrong choice of words as 'made' but i do believe there is a debate whether to call the card a 1948 or 1949 which is important when there is a 1949 bowman out there

[rats60]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Hence the 'pretty sure', however I meant as far as the way the cards are treated in the category. Ie. how to call the card.

1989 topps cards could be made in 1990 as well but as far as what year you call the card a 1990 topps card

Afterall, it isnt unusual for a Leaf rookie with psa to say 1948..see the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-LEAF-79...QAAOSwepJXYqHA

The point i was making was that 1949 bowmans Jackies are not called rookie cards (maybe they were made in 1950) as opposed to 1948 leaf jackies. Given that the leaf jackies would be 1949s, i would think the 1949 bowmans would be just as much as a rookie card?

So i mentioned that they were 1948 or 1949. I believe there was literature out there about whether to call these cards 1948 or 1949 is what made me say pretty sure..I used to wrong choice of words as 'made' but i do believe there is a debate whether to call the card a 1948 or 1949 which is important when there is a 1949 bowman out there

The confusion on the year of Leafs is some are copyrighted 1948 and 1949. The Jackie has a 1949 copywrite, so it is definitely a 1949 card as is the Bowman. They are both rookie cards.

The problem is that we have no evidence that the cards were ever issued in 48. The only collector testimony from people like Ted or Lionel Carter is that they collected the cards in 1949. Many of the cards contain stats from the 1948 season, include the Jackie Robinson and Stan Musial cards, so that dates them as 1949, meaning the Leaf Musial is not a rookie card. Also it is very likely, from collector testimony, that the Bowman Jackie was even released before the Leaf.

With the stats from the season on the back of the cards, the only possibility is there were some issued in November and December of 1948. However, Leaf also issued a football set. So, the idea that a brand new company would issue a football set in season and a baseball set out of season is extremely unlikely. We know these cards were aimed at kids who were much more active collectors in the summer. So, besides no evidence that this happened, it goes against all common sense.