Show...me...your print variations!

[Sliphorn]

The right version has a red line at the bottom. It does not appear to be a miscut as there is white under the red line.

[steve B]

Those lines show up on just about every Topps set. Not always on every card. I believe they're marks to help the people running the cutter. So they'd probably have dropped them when they went with more automated cutters.

1970 Topps I'm pretty sure every card comes with a line or without. And there are different lines on some cards.

Steve B

[ALR-bishop]

Agree that the 70 set and many others can be found with lines at top or bottom of cards. Often gray or black, and they can extend all across card or be partial. This red mark looks a little different to me, maybe just errant ink,... or maybe it is a partial line

Tom---do you know if it is recurring ?

[Sliphorn]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Agree that the 70 set and many others can be found with lines at top or bottom of cards. Often gray or black, and they can extend all across card or be partial. This red mark looks a little different to me, maybe just errant ink,... or maybe it is a partial line

Tom---do you know if it is recurring ?

I have only seen this one so who knows. I only know of it because I was eyeballing my cards to look for these type of things an found this one. If anyone else has one, that would be great.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

I have only seen this one so who knows. I only know of it because I was eyeballing my cards to look for these type of things an found this one. If anyone else has one, that would be great.

If you go to post #492 in this thread, I showed some 1959's that have a similar thing going on, although the crop(?) lines are vertical (on the right side) instead of horizontal.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

I have only seen this one so who knows. I only know of it because I was eyeballing my cards to look for these type of things an found this one. If anyone else has one, that would be great.

None of my 52 Topps cards have that red line that I am aware of?

I also own a Cloyd Boyer card so I'll have a look tomorrow just to clarify.

[ALR-bishop]

Example of the lines in side front borders that Darren mentioned on a 1959 card---one dark, one red on lower right. On this one the red looks more line like to me

[savedfrommyspokes]

Recently noticed this recurring blue mark near Sammy's left arm

[irv]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

The right version has a red line at the bottom. It does not appear to be a miscut as there is white under the red line.

I just looked and also noticed a red mark at the bottom of my Boyer card too. It is at the very bottom and is hard to see, which leaves me to believe, the cutter actually hit the mark.

I will have to check my other cards more carefully as I wasn't aware any of my cards had this mark.

[ALR-bishop]

Good follow up Dale

[irv]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Good follow up Dale

No problem, Al.

I quickly looked the cards that were in the same stack as my, Boyer, (same series range) and didn't notice any others. I will, time permitting, look at my others later to see if I have some other anomalies that I didn't originally notice?

[Sliphorn]

Originally Posted by irv

I just looked and also noticed a red mark at the bottom of my Boyer card too. It is at the very bottom and is hard to see, which leaves me to believe, the cutter actually hit the mark.

I will have to check my other cards more carefully as I wasn't aware any of my cards had this mark.

Here is an eBay listing from Dean's Cards for one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-2...8AAOSwyDxXgNng

[savedfrommyspokes]

Even more interesting is the "price change" Dean's did on this card on 7.7.....less than 2 days after the initial post about this card.....probably just a complete coincidence though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...p2047675.l2569


FWIW, my copy has the red line also:

[ALR-bishop]

What was the price before ?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

What was the price before ?

The listing's change screen does not show what the previous price was (could have been higher previously, but highly doubtful). DC has a VG copy of this card listed on COMC at $50.25, this copy is a VG-EX for $87.50...their website offers the same VG-EX card for $76.

[irv]

Decided to raise my Boyer a bit off the bottom of the holder so the red mark would be easier to see.

Edit: Didn't make much of a difference.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

Here is an eBay listing from Dean's Cards for one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-2...8AAOSwyDxXgNng

I rechecked all of my cards and didn't see anything remotely close to what the Boyer card looks like but I did notice a couple cards with some slight printing marks.
One is above Joe Presko's cap and the other is beside Joe Dobson near the border and near his right cheek. Both marks are also red.

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Even more interesting is the "price change" Dean's did on this card on 7.7.....less than 2 days after the initial post about this card.....probably just a complete coincidence though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...p2047675.l2569


FWIW, my copy has the red line also:

What was, Dean's previous price?

[Sliphorn]

[QUOTE=irv;1560294]I rechecked all of my cards and didn't see anything remotely close to what the Boyer card looks like but I did notice a couple cards with some slight printing marks.
One is above Joe Presko's cap and the other is beside Joe Dobson near the border and near his right cheek. Both marks are also red.



I can see the Dobson red marks and have them on mine as well so are they an UER?

Presto is a mystery as I cannot see any marks near his cap. i see the blue dot and mine has it. Can you please clarify this one?

Thanks.

[Sliphorn]

[QUOTE=Sliphorn;1560669][QUOTE=irv;1560294]I rechecked all of my cards and didn't see anything remotely close to what the Boyer card looks like but I did notice a couple cards with some slight printing marks.
One is above Joe Presko's cap and the other is beside Joe Dobson near the border and near his right cheek. Both marks are also red.



I can see the Dobson red marks and have them on mine as well so are they an UER?

Presto is a mystery as I cannot see any marks near his cap. i see the blue dot and mine has it. Can you please clarify this one?

UPDATE:

The Dobson marks ARE a variation as the norm does not have them. Batters box has several with them on eBay.

[irv]

Originally Posted by irv

I just looked and also noticed a red mark at the bottom of my Boyer card too. It is at the very bottom and is hard to see, which leaves me to believe, the cutter actually hit the mark.

I will have to check my other cards more carefully as I wasn't aware any of my cards had this mark.

Old post but also noticed a red mark/line on my Phil Masi card on the upper middle border just above his head. (14 rows down on the right in my FlickR link below).

Still curious how these red marks came about on these cards, but I doubt we'll ever know?

[ALR-bishop]

The Masi is recurring, printer's mark ?

[irv]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

The Masi is recurring, printer's mark ?

Noticed it on another members card here as well.

I assume, based on where this card was located on a sheet, that that is the reason why more cards don't have them?

[JollyElm]

1972 card #337, Mike Kilkenny, appears with and without a short, thick black line in the bottom yellow area of the "S." The version without the mark is seemingly a tad bit 'rarer' than the other, but there are untold numbers of each out there.

1972kilkenny337.jpg

Hmmm…Mike Kilkenny? I wonder if he's a fan of 'South Park.'

[savedfrommyspokes]

The House card on the left has a Tiger logo that is nearly yellow, except for the tongue which is light red and some very light orange around the top of the tiger's head. The true variations of this card I have viewed, show the Tiger's tongue as well as the rest of its face yellow also. Is this "yellow" Tiger variation a "progressive" type of variation as there appear to be some varying degrees/amounts of yellow?