SMR's non-linear relationship to reality

[Leon]

+1

A couple years ago I looked at the Beckett printed guide to try to find mistakes. It was spot on with accurate, reliable and provable recent sales data. I was surprised and happy. Otherwise, I agree print guides are outdated almost when they are printed, so it seems nowadays.

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

In all seriousness, the Beckett people do the best job by far in tracking the graded card market. Without discussing some of the issues we have discussed forever on this board, they work very hard on their graded pricing.

I know, because I email the head of pricing about 3-4 x a week and he emailed me back to say they were processing a several thousand page graded card market report for their next graded card pricing book

That is in addition to whatever they do to keep pricing accurate on the hotter cards the rest of the year

Rich

[Hot Springs Bathers]

I agree with Daryl, eBay is the current viable price guide. Beckett is pie-in-the-sky pricing.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

I agree with Daryl, eBay is the current viable price guide. Beckett is pie-in-the-sky pricing.

Hey Mike
LMAO, almost all of the Beckett sales I tracked, in their print guide, where actual historical sales with data to back them up..... You weren't reading the same guide I was, that is for sure. Unless you think they are in cahoots with ebay and all of the auction houses to distort and distribute historical data.

[Rich Klein]

Mike:

You are a truly good person, but in this case I will disagree with a caveat.

There are many modern cards for which there is no real way to keep up with their values which when you see them at a show are 10 percent of less of the Beckett BV. When you finally drive down to my show with Mike and Kyle, you will see we all agree on that. I (we) still owe you a meal from like 2004.

However, in the field of graded card pricing, Beckett really does a very thorough job on pricing. Their market report for the upcoming graded card book is several thousand pages. I have no reason to doubt the pricing manager who I send several emails a week to when he apologizes for not responding because of having to work through that pricing tome.

And while I have not seen, nor do I want to go through any of that data, they do have access to ALL Ebay Data, the Beckett marketplace, all the auction houses big and small and other ways as well.

Regards
Rich

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Rich I am looking forward to a visit and hope to do so in the near future, by the way Mike and Kyle have given your shows very high marks!

[Rich Klein]

We miss them, they need to do my show more often. They did great in a 3 hour cameo last month!

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Leon- I have the utmost respect for the folks at Beckett and the sales I track are not the high end stuff anyway. But for the average collector that is not buying graded material eBay is the best reflection of what pricing is today.

I will also add that while I have not purchased a monthly guide in years I eagerly look forward to their new vintage magazine, the articles have been great fun.