T206 R B SHEINER Wagner

[shammus]

Here's a bunch of real Cobbs...
https://www.google.com/search?q=ty+c...ORLTAN2T0JM%3A

Notice how clear and sharp they all are? See how yours compares to these? Yours is fuzzy and grainy.

Yes, there was once a Cobb with a Ty Cobb back that sold for big money. But it was real.

As for the Wagner, there's no pinkish-orangish variation of that card I'm afraid.

Hope you didn't spend too much for these, but if you feel all of us are wrong, just send them in for grading and let us know how it turns out.

[Luke]

Yeah, these are bad fakes. Hope you didn't pay much for them, and also hope you didn't use google to find a card forum to try and rip someone off. Nothing personal but this is what I think every time someone joins the forum just to show off some reprints. Ironically this is the worst place on the internet to try and sell a fake tobacco card.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Your Cobb card is a reprint of this one. Notice the creases are identical. As already said, I hope you didn't pay too much.

[lieaware]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Your Cobb card is a reprint of this one. Notice the creases are identical. As already said, I hope you didn't pay too much.

how dose the back look what is the yellow tint

[Leon]

And thank God the grammar and spelling police aren't around!!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

And thank God the grammar and spelling police aren't around!!

We're here, Leon. You get a noobie pass on your first thread.

May I be the first to welcome you to the forum. What else do you collect? Any lower priced stuff for those of us without deep pockets?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

We're here, Leon. You get a noobie pass on your first thread.

May I be the first to welcome you to the forum. What else do you collect?

A Goudey Lajoie
A 1914 Cracker Jack Mathewson
And 3 or 4 1952 Topps Mantles

[ksfarmboy]

Originally Posted by Leon

And thank God the grammar and spelling police aren't around!!

Speaking of which, where and how is Barry Sloate? Haven't heard anything in awhile. Miss his posting.

[Den*nis O*Brien]

Originally Posted by ksfarmboy

Speaking of which, where and how is Barry Sloate? Haven't heard anything in awhile. Miss his posting.

I just saw a post by him...it could have been this thread. He certainly has been missed. He is a wealth of knowledge and his auction and set sale catalogs were always a welcomed find in the mailbox !!

[lieaware]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Your Cobb card is a reprint of this one. Notice the creases are identical. As already said, I hope you didn't pay too much.

is that your card ....I would like to see it next to mine...

[Sean]

Originally Posted by lieaware

is that your card ....I would like to see it next to mine...

We can see them next to each other....your card is the poor copy.

[Joshchisox08]

Perhaps if he submits them to PSA they will come back "? AUTHTCT ..............

[ullmandds]

Peter chao? If the op would show us a picture of your bedroom... We would be able to much more accurately assess your card !

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Peter chao? If the op would show us a picture of your bedroom... We would be able to much more accurately assess your card !

It puts the lotion on the cards.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

It puts the lotion on the cards.

Lmao!

[lieaware]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Your Cobb card is a reprint of this one. Notice the creases are identical. As already said, I hope you didn't pay too much.

the comma is so pronounced in the damage of the one you show......

[Sean]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

this is the worst place on the internet to try and sell a fake tobacco card.

.....or a Cobb/Lenox.

[Bigb13]

Originally Posted by Sean

.....or a Cobb/Lenox.

Must you continue being a jerk?

[Vintageismygame]

So instead of the Cobb/Edwards Wagner is this the Cobb/Anda Wagner?

Matt

[shammus]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

Yeah, these are bad fakes. Hope you didn't pay much for them, and also hope you didn't use google to find a card forum to try and rip someone off. Nothing personal but this is what I think every time someone joins the forum just to show off some reprints. Ironically this is the worst place on the internet to try and sell a fake tobacco card.

I'd agree with this. And this particular poster is turning a blind eye to everything he's being told, is ignoring all evidence and still insists his cards are real. That's a very scammer-like quality in my opinion. Honestly, not only are they fakes, they're obvious and poorly done fakes at that. Nobody here is going to be fooled by these.

[IMAXMAX]

Charlie Faust the 4th?

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by IMAXMAX

Charlie Faust the 4th?

?

[Yoda]

I think he approached the wrong forum for whatever silly game he is plotting, probably listing these cards on Ebay showing some kind of endorsement from us that they are authentic. Right. What a loser. Note that he joined us, gosh, this month.

[pherbener]

This has got to be a joke! Right??

[coolshemp]

I actually have another card with the same back stamp. I posted about it a while ago to see if others were out there. It was authenticated and slab bed by SGC.

[lieaware]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I think he approached the wrong forum for whatever silly game he is plotting, probably listing these cards on Ebay showing some kind of endorsement from us that they are authentic. Right. What a loser. Note that he joined us, gosh, this month.

I was just doing some research and someone on the site wanted to see a post about them???

[lieaware]

Originally Posted by shammus

Here's a bunch of real Cobbs...
https://www.google.com/search?q=ty+c...ORLTAN2T0JM%3A

Notice how clear and sharp they all are? See how yours compares to these? Yours is fuzzy and grainy.

Yes, there was once a Cobb with a Ty Cobb back that sold for big money. But it was real.

As for the Wagner, there's no pinkish-orangish variation of that card I'm afraid.

Hope you didn't spend too much for these, but if you feel all of us are wrong, just send them in for grading and let us know how it turns out.

.did you see good pictures of The Ty Cobb that sold for 100,000+++total strike out 123 1the lettering on the back was missing parts where the wrinkle is on my card 2 the plastic on the case looked snowy 3 ........I have the same card pictured that G auctions Sold.....

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by lieaware

.did you see good pictures of The Ty Cobb that sold for 100,000+++total strike out 123 1the lettering on the back was missing parts where the wrinkle is on my card 2 the plastic on the case looked snowy 3 ........I have the same card pictured that G auctions Sold.....

I'm not sure how many ways it has to be said. Yours is a very poor copy of the one that sold at Goldin. That was the original. Yours is the fake.

The Wagner is so bad it might not even be a copy of an original. That one might be just a distressed reprint as opposed to your Cobb which is a distressed copy of an actual card.

Tom C

[Bpm0014]

I like how half of the Wagner, in the original picture, is basically blocked out by the other holder....

[Bpm0014]

This has to be a joke....

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

This has to be a joke....

I think he's confusing Friday the 13th with April Fools Day.

[Vintagecatcher]

Your user name is close....shouldn't it be "Aware of a Lie" instead of just lieaware?

Patrick

[lieaware]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

I like how half of the Wagner, in the original picture, is basically blocked out by the other holder....

???

[frankbmd]

I think lieaware is really lieunaware.

[Sean]

Lieaware is an interesting choice for a name.

[Thirteen]

I like how the back stamp survived the paper loss that is underneath it.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by lieaware

.did you see good pictures of The Ty Cobb that sold for 100,000+++total strike out 123 1the lettering on the back was missing parts where the wrinkle is on my card 2 the plastic on the case looked snowy 3 ........I have the same card pictured that G auctions Sold.....

Is this a joke, or do you actually believe these cards are real? If the latter is true, why waste time trying to convince a forum? If I believed I found the two most valuable cards in the hobby in a raw state, my first call would be to PSA to set up an appointment for their walk through service. My second would be to book a flight to southern California, assuming you don't already live here.

[Mdmtx]

I am appalled at the answers here. I will offer 500k for the pair. However, I may have to go purchase a couple monopoly games to secure proper loot for the transaction.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Is this a joke, or do you actually believe these cards are real? If the latter is true, why waste time trying to convince a forum? If I believed I found the two most valuable cards in the hobby in a raw state, my first call would be to PSA to set up an appointment for their walk through service. My second would be to book a flight to southern California, assuming you don't already live here.

Jesse, good point. Exactly what is the endgame? Is it
1- You genuinely believe the cards are real? If so, have them graded. They'll be worth at least half a million dollars.

2- You want our opinion of the cards? If so, stop arguing with us. We've given you our opinion: they're fakes.

3- You came here to sell them? In that case, list them on the BST board. And please, include a price. I hate to be the one to begin the negotiations.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Sean

Jesse, good point. Exactly what is the endgame? Is it
1- You genuinely believe the cards are real? If so, have them graded. They'll be worth at least half a million dollars.

2- You want our opinion of the cards? If so, stop arguing with us. We've given you our opinion: they're fakes.

3- You came here to sell them? In that case, list them on the BST board. And please, include a price. I hate to be the one to begin the negotiations.

I guess I left out a third option. He knows they're fakes and was hoping he would fool this site. Kind of like printing fake $100 bills and taking them straight to the secret service. If they'll pass here they should fool anyone.

[Joshwesley]

Ya'll are being trolled.

[Jobu]

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[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Joshwesley

Ya'll are being trolled.

+1