Signed T206: Was Rube Marquard's Wife Signing For Him?

[ATP]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Great find! But, check out the lower case "p's" in this letter. Stick followed by curly thing. Still, you're making a strong case.

Thanks! Note that the "p's" that are highlighted still look like one fluid, down and up motion. Not like the "Stick R" on the ones above, where it's just a straight line down, then a new start to cross the R at the top.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by ATP

Thanks! Note that the "p's" that are highlighted still look like one fluid, down and up motion. Not like the "Stick R" on the ones above, where it's just a straight line down, then a new start to cross the R at the top.

I disagree. These are sticks followed by a new stroke to make the p.

[ATP]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I disagree. These are sticks followed by a new stroke to make the p.

I still think the p's are completed in one stroke, at least to my eyes...but I can't zoom in close enough to show it. Here is a another letter by him written not too far off time wise where you can definitely see he makes his lower case p's in one stroke (I am kind of chuckling to myself and I love it, we have gotten so deep into this we are discussing a lower case letter that isn't even in his signature :-)...rather discuss it with folks here than ever risk trying to bore my wife to death talking about something like this.

[7nohitter]

Jeff,
I agree; I'm loving this discussion and the items being presented.

[btcarfagno]

Here is a Marquard letter of mine. Also, regarding Jeff's theory, I think that it is likely spot on, although I had a very tough Marquard signed 1979 Grand Slam card that was somehow authenticated by JSA although it was very much an end of life type of autograph. So there may have been days where he did sign things that were sent to him through the mail instead of just generic 3x5's and photos.






Tom C

[Wrightfan85]

I'll contribute. Here's my late era Marquard I bought from Richard Simon years back. It definitely does not appeared to be stamped and shows an infirmed hand:

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

I'm loving this discussion and the items being presented.

Talking about Rube Marquard's signature is probably my favorite thing to do. My signed T206 collection started when I acquired all four signed T206 Marquards that were on ebay over a two week period in 2004. It's been a love affair ever since...

[earlywynnfan]

Sorry to come to this late, but I want to share this ball. Had several friendly emails with some respectable hobby types about this Marquard, and this thread seems to fit nicely. This sig was obtained through the mail in the 70's (it's a 70-73 feeney ball, FWIW.) Our discussions trailed off with all of us questioning the atypical "R" along with the odd "D."

[ATP]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Sorry to come to this late, but I want to share this ball. Had several friendly emails with some respectable hobby types about this Marquard, and this thread seems to fit nicely. This sig was obtained through the mail in the 70's (it's a 70-73 feeney ball, FWIW.) Our discussions trailed off with all of us questioning the atypical "R" along with the odd "D."

Ken, thank you for posting this. Its definitely the same style as the ones I have been researching and I am not surprised it was confirmed as through the mail from that era, and on an item that could not have been pre signed like the index or generic photos that were sent out. Since its been a few days, anyone else who is interested in this topic have thoughts as to which direction I should go next as to further the research on this? Thank you.

[ATP]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Sorry to come to this late, but I want to share this ball. Had several friendly emails with some respectable hobby types about this Marquard, and this thread seems to fit nicely. This sig was obtained through the mail in the 70's (it's a 70-73 feeney ball, FWIW.) Our discussions trailed off with all of us questioning the atypical "R" along with the odd "D."

Looking at this ball again on my computer as I was using my phone earlier, look at that M in marquard. How many strokes were used to make it? Is it two, or three starts for that one letter? The middle bottom is area of the M I am referring to. Whoever signed this ball its definitely the same style as the other ones I am theorizing to be wife signed, also a key is the break between the R and the u in Rube and how high up the u starts. Same style in the five others.