Ty Cobb not the monster many have made him out to be?

[tschock]

Question for all the lawyers in the house. If the above respondents in this thread were in a jury pool, would their posts here help you to determine whether or not you would dismiss them as a candidate?

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Mr. Leershen's book on Cobb won the SABR Larry Ritter award for 2016 last week

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Mr. Leershen's book on Cobb won the SABR Larry Ritter award for 2016 last week

I am gonna by this book and see first hand what he thinks.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Mr. Leershen's book on Cobb won the SABR Larry Ritter award for 2016 last week

Not surprising at all from an organization that does actual research.

One general observation from a number of these posts. It's interesting reading comments on 'facts' from those who either haven't read the article or repeating claims made from previously (fabricated) works as 'facts'.

I would also offer that Cobb wasn't as much "misunderstood" as he was "misrepresented".

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by tschock

Not surprising at all from an organization that does actual research.

One general observation from a number of these posts. It's interesting reading comments on 'facts' from those who either haven't read the article or repeating claims made from previously (fabricated) works as 'facts'.

I would also offer that Cobb wasn't as much "misunderstood" as he was "misrepresented".

My comments were made based on the 6-7 first hand interviews Ritter recorded when researching material for his book. The interviews were recorded and were first had accounts from teammates and other players that played with Cobb.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

My comments were made based on the 6-7 first hand interviews Ritter recorded when researching material for his book. The interviews were recorded and were first had accounts from teammates and other players that played with Cobb.

Zach,
Sorry, I poorly structured that post. I was NOT implying you, but others earlier in the this thread that seemed to be repeating other Cobb 'myths'.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by tschock

Zach,
Sorry, I poorly structured that post. I was NOT implying you, but others earlier in the this thread that seemed to be repeating other Cobb 'myths'.

Was Cobb beating up a crippled fan a myth? That's the one I hear over and over and is enough (personally) for me to condem a man. Plus, reading through the original article, the author mentions 3-4 other incidents of violence. Seems like Cobb should've spent most of his playing years behind bars..

[Pilot172000]

Have you ever been heckled? Has anybody ever verbally abused you during the course of your work? The crippled guy may have been handicapped but he certainly was man enough to say some pretty bad stuff to Cobb over the course of several games. My old man lost his right arm at age twelve and he certainly never shied away from the good fights. He thought me that if your willing to say it you darn well be willing to back it up. The handicapped man had been warned several times and continued anyway. If you are man enough to say it then you are man enough to tote the a$$ whooping that comes with it. That's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of the entire Detroit squad, most of which hated Cobbs guts. They boycotted in support of Cobb.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Was Cobb beating up a crippled fan a myth? That's the one I hear over and over and is enough (personally) for me to condem a man. Plus, reading through the original article, the author mentions 3-4 other incidents of violence. Seems like Cobb should've spent most of his playing years behind bars..

This story was actually covered in the audio version of TGOTT as well. Cobb was defended (I state defended in the lightest possible terms) by the player on the audio version....which I think was Davey Jones. According to Jones, Cobb was hounded incessantly by this fan, game after game. The audio version doesn't state specifically what was mentioned in the various taunts - but other sources indicate the taunts were quite cruel. Cobb went into the stands and beat up him up - some time during the course of which Cobb found out he was severely handicapped.

I am not defending Cobb and by any means. Certainly on every level his actions were repugnant - but most portray the incident as if Cobb knew beforehand that the fan was handicapped. This is the way the story was portrayed in several bio's.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Was Cobb beating up a crippled fan a myth? That's the one I hear over and over and is enough (personally) for me to condem a man. Plus, reading through the original article, the author mentions 3-4 other incidents of violence. Seems like Cobb should've spent most of his playing years behind bars..

As opposed to everyone in the NFL

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Mr. Leershen's book on Cobb won the SABR Larry Ritter award for 2016 last week

I am flabbergasted that they would award their top book prize to an author who thinks it's possible to get a home run on a ball hit back to the pitcher.

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by tschock

Question for all the lawyers in the house. If the above respondents in this thread were in a jury pool, would their posts here help you to determine whether or not you would dismiss them as a candidate?

I think you would have a hung jury. We could determine that he was difficult but negligently an A-hole!!