Bryce Harper

[Snapolit1]

Rolling Stines misogyny? Would you like a few examples.

The Police?

John Lennon?

Jimi Hendrix?

I could give you a Gilbert O Sullivan song that you wouldn't believe in the misogyny scale. Still played on the radio today.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Rolling Stines misogyny? Would you like a few examples.

The Police?

John Lennon?

Jimi Hendrix?

I could give you a Gilbert O Sullivan song that you wouldn't believe in the misogyny scale. Still played on the radio today.

The discussion is about the lyrics of a particular song, not about a musician/group. You can like a musician/group, but not like one of his/their songs and you can like a song without liking the artist. And I understand what you are saying. There are certain songs that come on the radio that I object to the lyrics but like the musician, but I still change the station anyway. If you have no objection to the song in question, pull it up on Youtube and sit down with your kid(s) and listen to it as a family. Ask them what they think about it. No kids? Listen to it with your parents and ask them what they think about it. Let us know how it goes. And you slso need to read post #155 in this thread. If you want to continue the discussion, your full name really needs to be in your post.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I could give you a Gilbert O Sullivan song that you wouldn't believe in the misogyny scale. Still played on the radio today.

"You're a bad dog, baby, but I still want you 'round." Haven't thought about that song in years .

[Peter_Spaeth]

I thought he meant A Woman's Place.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought he meant A Woman's Place.

Oops, my bad. I'm not even familiar with "A Woman's Place", I looked it up and it only reached #42 in the UK in 1974 and didn't chart at all in the US. I just figured he meant "Get Down", which was his last big hit in 1973, is certainly misogynist, and is occasionally played on oldie stations.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Oops, my bad. I'm not even familiar with "A Woman's Place", I looked it up and it only reached #42 in the UK in 1974 and didn't chart at all in the US. I just figured he meant "Get Down", which was his last big hit in 1973, is certainly misogynist, and is occasionally played on oldie stations.

You could well be right that that's the one he had in mind. In any event, again, it seems a long way from that song to some of the rap gems.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You could well be right that that's the one he had in mind. In any event, again, it seems a long way from that song to some of the rap gems.

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disgust for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

I do have kids and It makes me nervous about taking them to the Ballpark in Arlington this summer if that's the kind of stuff they play.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

Next thing you know they'll start playing Steely Dan.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

The whole idea of walkup music is stupid IMO. Can't the Facebook/iphone/video game generation tolerate 10 seconds without input? I see these young people walking around or sitting at tables unable to take their eyes off the screen and just wonder what the cumulative effect is going to be.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

Leon -and others-, I find it safe it assume that the Ballpark (and the Nationals) don't allow parts of the song/s with questionable or offensive lyrics to be played in front of thousands of people. I could be wrong (haven't been to a home Nats game since 2010), but rational expectation leads me to believe that. My 4 year old son received the newest Chipmunks movie for Easter. I came home from last week to find him and my wife singing Sir Mixalot while sitting the table as evidently three talking squirrels sing it in the movie. I didn't go back and watch the film to make sure no questionable lyrics for kids were mentioned because A) the previous Chipmunk films I watched were god awful and B) I have a reasonable expectation that 20th Century Fox didn't include "Alot of pimps won't like this song 'cause them punks lie to hit it and quit it, But I'd rather stay and play 'cause I'm long and I'm strong, And I'm down to get the friction on" in a children's movie about talking squirrels that somehow grossed a quarter of a billion dollars. I would find it safe assume that 85% of people who will hear or heard the portion played before Harper's at-bat have no idea what the song is or what it is about. The other 15% probably have it on their iphone. You could argue that your kid might google it because he heard at the ballpark, but in that case your son/daughter knows how search the web and there is an entire universe of information and content they are likely already filtering through. Less disagreeably, if you haven't been a fan of the game since 94' I implore you to come back. The league currently has the greatest influx of young talent in a half a century.

Originally Posted by xplainer

The music you listen to, the movies you watch, the places you go all point to who you are. That simple. It is the sum of how you live your life.

I've had two careers in two vastly different industries. I previously worked for a University and I currently run a restaurant. I enjoyed my time in education and other than I was offered more money to switch I'd likely still be there. I'll say this though, the people I have a pleasure to work with now are some of the greatest collection of human beings on the planet. The music you listen to, the movies you watch, and the places you go do not define you. How you live your life in treating those both stranger and kin define who you are. I don't consider my age (32) "old" but there is clearly a generation gap between me and the majority of my employees (18-23). They listen to music I find absurd, watch movies I'll likely never view, snapchat incessantly, and everyday there is a new word to describe how cool or uncool something is. Those that aren't in the college age demographic often have had a personal issue or two. You don't set out to be a middle aged line cook or waiter, although some of them make great money. Out of my 45 employees there might be five who under this absurd definition of character would qualify as upstanding or however we're judging people by their media consumed, language used, clothing worn, or places attended. What they do, however, is work hard for long hours with a smile and high five at the end of day and night. Some of them work 50-55 hours a week, raise kids, and go to school. When a fellow employee lost everything in a fire they raised and contributed enough time and money to immediately house the family, put clothes on their back, and replace the kids' favorite toys and electronics even though for most it was needed or could be used in their own household. Yet, when the doors are locked and last customer leaves they play their own music which often includes lyrics similar to what has been copied and pasted here - and I'll take them over many of the more "professional" peers I've interacted with in my lifetime.


Steven Finley