OT: Manning announces his retirement

[Jobu]

Great player, perhaps the best QB ever. I do hope that he does fewer commercials in retirement though, that would make me very happy.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Great player, perhaps the best QB ever. I do hope that he does fewer commercials in retirement though, that would make me very happy.

I am one to always differentiate best Qbs vs. best passers

Best QBs ever

1. Tom Brady (And I am a Bills fan)
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. Otto Graham
5. Brett Favre

Best Passers

1. Peyton Manning
2. Dan Marino
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Fran Tarkenton
5. Drew Brees

[Peter_Spaeth]

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

Or John Elway, for that matter.

[Mdmtx]

HGH you taste so good...

[HRBAKER]

At least the Broncos won't have to cut him now.

Great career, great player, great ending.

Would have been painful to watch him play more.

[glynparson]

Best qb

1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. John Elway
4. Peyton Manning
5. Johnny Unitas

Honourable mention to Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman

Best passers

1. Dan Marino
2. Dan Fouts
3. Brett Favre
4. Fran Tarkenton
5. Drew Brees

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

Sonny maybe, he was an exquisite passer, but Unitas as great as he was has just been passed. He would be in the Top 10, but most of the great modern day passers do things that would make Unitas go from 6:00 to 12:00 real fast.

On a side note, another explanation could be because your old.

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

Agree with both points.

I think it's hard to rank players with one guy being a solid #1, then 2, then 3, etc., but I don't know how you'd rank anyone above Jurgensen as a pure passer. He was incredible. (Having Charley Taylor, Bobby Mitchell, and Jerry Smith didn't hurt, but his throwing and offensive management were great.) I'd perhaps put Marino and maybe Rodgers in the same class, but wouldn't say any of them is the clear cut best.

As for Unitas, I don't know how you compare across eras, but I think he's in the group of the top QBs ever.

And don't forget Otto Graham.