"Lucky 7" find - Cobb with Cobb back

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The only tin found so far that has a stamp on it is dated 1912.


http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...preview/2.html

Show me where on this Tin a "1912" date is printed ?

As you said....the 1912 date is from the tax stamp on it. Which does NOT
tell us when this Cobb tobacco or this Cobb card was marketed.

Please check-out Post #81 here, where the early Spring 1910 Newspaper
clippings clearly tell us when these Cobb cards were in circulation.


TED Z
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[GasHouseGang]

Here's the picture showing the date.

[packs]

I'm not following what you're saying. If a card is already on the checklist, why would a back make it a new addition to the checklist? The card is Cobb Red Portrait. Any Cobb Red Portrait with any back is still the same card.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Show me where on this Tin a "1912" date is printed ?

As you said....the 1912 date is from the tax stamp on it. Which does NOT
tell us when this Cobb tobacco or this Cobb card was marketed.

Please check-out Post #81 here, where the early Spring 1910 Newspaper
clippings clearly tell us when these Cobb cards were in circulation.


TED Z
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I'm not speculating that this is when the cards were made available. I was
just pointing out the date on the stamp for the distribution of this tobacco/tin.

As far as I know no one is sure the cards were even in these tins.

I did see post #81 and I don't see where it "clearly tells us when the cards
were circulated". I also don't see a date on any of the newspaper clippings.

[Stonepony]

FOX news just did a segment on the find

[CMIZ5290]

I agree with Glyn and Leon. I think these cards will easily exceed $2 Mil....

[ullmandds]

I am a terrible speculator but I do not see these cards fetching 2 million .

[CMIZ5290]

Goldin Auctions sold a PSA 1 that had more wrinkles than Phyllis Diller for $120k, and I think that was quite a while back. The PSA 4.5 of this card in this recent find is gong to bring huge money....

[familytoad]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I agree with Glyn and Leon. I think these cards will easily exceed $2 Mil....

That , of course , is 7 people (or corporations) @ 300,000 each...or more if you mean to say far above 2 million.

I don't see that happening, but stranger things have...

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by familytoad

That , of course , is 7 people (or corporations) @ 300,000 each...or more if you mean to say far above 2 million.

I don't see that happening, but stranger things have...

Since the last 1 sold for 150k, and the 3.5 and 4.5 are the top two grades this card has ever received, I think 2 mil is a conservative estimate.

Say 200k for the 1.5, 300k for the 4 2.5s, 500k for the 3.5, 750 for the 4.5. Of course these all just numbers I made up, but I could see them going for that or more. That's 2.65 mil at my guesses, and I would not be surprised by a total of 3 mil.

The word is that two are already sold. If this is the case, I'm sure they didn't sell cheap.

[RaidonCollects]

This is a really, really cool find.

I agree with Ted on this one, I'm not by any means a T206 back expert (at all, so please correct me if I am wrong), but the Ty Cobb back Cobbs are different to the regular red backgrounds the same way they're different to Coupon Type 1 Red Backgrounds.

Also, is this now the third rarest T206 back?

3. Ty Cobb
2. Brown Old Mill
1. Brown Old Mill Fact. 649 Overprint?

~Owen

[begsu1013]

is my condensed version correct?

these cards have the same front as a red ty cobb w/ various backs.

but the ty cobb back is most likely released in a later year for a specialized release and they simply just used the front from the red t206?

or in simpler terms...

I wouldn't make the 89 bowman mantle part of the 1953 bowman set?

[begsu1013]

back

[Boccabella]

Cobb apparently began smoking in 1909 and Ty Cobb brand tobacco debuted in January of 1910. It was made in Reidsville, NC.

There's a funny reference to his smoking history via an old newspaper clipping in this update on the sale of the 2 newly discovered cards.

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...d-in-bag-sold/