Was told to post these pins in here so I am.

Hankphenom · #1 02-23-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MK

I believe the vendors did in fact attach the hangers to the pins after they received them from distributors. Ribbons and cheap tinkets added to the appeal when they hung them on their boards for sale. The better the item added, the more alluring to the buyer.

But what is your evidence for this? Obviously, those things do add to the appeal, but why wouldn't the manufacturers and distributors want to take advantage of this, too, and why would vendors want to go to all the trouble of buying pins and add-ons separately and putting them together? Your Senators pin is a tough one, but I would say of the handful of examples I've seen over the years, three of them came the way yours is, which would lead me to conclude that that's the way they came to the vendors, and the ones without the baseball had simply lost it somewhere along the way. My example of that pin has the same "flag" ribbon, but with metal glove and ball charms, which I'm guessing is a Frankenstein put together by a dealer.

Hankphenom · #2 02-23-2016, 07:55 PM

Incidentally, looking at the 1924 "Pennant Winners" pin and the Senators pin together would certainly seem to provide a good date for the Senators pin, which would be hard to guess otherwise from the graphics alone.

MK · #3 02-23-2016, 08:26 PM

I don't have any proof the attachments were added by the sellers. Just my opinion. Muchinsky did state in his book that the attachments were usually added by the vendors to add to their appeal. He also told about a veteran collector who recalled seeing vendors adding ribbons and charms to pins outside Yankee Stadium and Ebbets Field.

Hankphenom · #4 02-23-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MK

I don't have any proof the attachments were added by the sellers. Just my opinion. Muchinsky did state in his book that the attachments were usually added by the vendors to add to their appeal. He also told about a veteran collector who recalled seeing vendors adding ribbons and charms to pins outside Yankee Stadium and Ebbets Field.

Likewise, I don't have anything to dispute it, just a feeling of greater likelihood that assembly would have been done at the source to enhance attractiveness and sales. Wonder if there's much in the way of information on manufacturers or distributors out there, does Muchinsky go into that? I need to get his book. I'll also grill Rick Haskins at the national this summer about some of these things, he's seen as many pinbacks as anybody.

ooo-ribay · #5 02-23-2016, 11:21 PM

Who is Rick Haskins?

mjkm90 · #6 02-24-2016, 07:40 AM

Why don't you simply REMOVE the add-ons if you don't like them...problem solved

Hankphenom · #7 02-24-2016, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mjkm90

Why don't you simply REMOVE the add-ons if you don't like them...problem solved

No!!!!!!!!!

Hankphenom · #8 02-24-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Who is Rick Haskins?

Long-time dealer from Texas who always has the biggest assortment of vintage pennants and pins at the National.

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