Baseball cards of HOFers as managers/coaches

[Volod]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

...that smile and general appearance of a very happy person is quite consistent between the two pics. Plus, most of us were familiar with Dick WIlliams in the 70's, so we have a great sense of what he really looked like (albeit a bit older).

Williams was smiling just like that after he famously hoodwinked Johnny Bench in the eighth inning of the third game of the '72 WS. With two out, Reds runners on second and third, and a full count on Bench, Williams went to the mound and ordered Rollie Fingers to give Bench a free pass, but secretly instructed Gene Tenace to dive back behind the plate as Fingers threw strike three down the middle to a shocked Bench. Managerial acumen like that is what put Williams in the Hall.

[stlcardsfan]

Originally Posted by Volod

Williams was smiling just like that after he famously hoodwinked Johnny Bench in the eighth inning of the third game of the '72 WS. With two out, Reds runners on second and third, and a full count on Bench, Williams went to the mound and ordered Rollie Fingers to give Bench a free pass, but secretly instructed Gene Tenace to dive back behind the plate as Fingers threw strike three down the middle to a shocked Bench. Managerial acumen like that is what put Williams in the Hall.

Just watched this on You Tube. Pitch was outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw0w9rhNtCk

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Volod

Williams was smiling just like that after he famously hoodwinked Johnny Bench in the eighth inning of the third game of the '72 WS. With two out, Reds runners on second and third, and a full count on Bench, Williams went to the mound and ordered Rollie Fingers to give Bench a free pass, but secretly instructed Gene Tenace to dive back behind the plate as Fingers threw strike three down the middle to a shocked Bench. Managerial acumen like that is what put Williams in the Hall.

He didn't look fooled to me on the youtube clip, just that he thought the pitch was outside. Which it was. He looks like any other batter sizing up a pitch.

[Volod]

Ok, guys, you want to see some outside pitches called strikes, take a look at the umpiring in the '95 WS that benefitted Maddox and Glavine...sheesh

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Volod

Ok, guys, you want to see some outside pitches called strikes, take a look at the umpiring in the '95 WS that benefitted Maddox and Glavine...sheesh

Maddux, and Pedro, had the biggest strike zones I have ever seen.

[ALR-bishop]

You are not inferior Peter, you are just a naysayer who piles on. At least you got a laugh out of him

As far as skin color, different paints ?

[Volod]

A couple more shots of Williams, for what it's worth.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

You are not inferior Peter, you are just a naysayer who piles on. At least you got a laugh out of him

As far as skin color, different paints ?

A condescending laugh, I would guess, based on Darren's tone there.
Do you think it's Williams, man, I just don't see it, I mean it could be given how bad some of the 52T drawings are (e.g. Mantle which but for the fact that the association is burned into our minds doesn't really look much like him), but it's not like it jumps out and screams yeah it has to be him.

[David W]

Red Schoendienst went in the HOF as a player, and has manager cards from 1965 to 1974 every year I think, plus his cameo in 1990.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A condescending laugh, I would guess, based on Darren's tone there.
Do you think it's Williams, man, I just don't see it, I mean it could be given how bad some of the 52T drawings are (e.g. Mantle which but for the fact that the association is burned into our minds doesn't really look much like him), but it's not like it jumps out and screams yeah it has to be him.

Off topic but I believe this is the pic used to produce Mick's 52 TOPPS card?